Despite O'Reilly -- Amsterdam better than USA!

[Valjean]

Well if you want some common ground, let's destroy China, we'll write off our debt to them and over throw a totalitarian government in one fell swoop. Really it's the least the Republicans can do, as it stands it seems rather hypocritical of you all to talk so negatively about socialism and support a communist country at the same time they way you do by doing so much business with them. The Republic of China is the antithesis of what we say America stands for after all, so why the hell are we even supporting them in any fashion to begin with? We should have never dropped a single dime into the economy to begin with, now look at them, they are on the threshold of surpassing us, they have more money than this country, their army is like twice the size in man power, they're nuclear capable, they even have their own space program, and we owe THEM money. If they ever decided to cash in and collect we'd be screwed.

Good observation, lamplighter. We're in China's pocket, financially. They're in a position to pull our strings whenever they choose.
As far as our antithesis, I think a good case could be made for our good friend Saudi Arabia.

Seriously though, what is the monumental hang up about making sure every human being in the US is taken care of properly? If anything I think healthy workers would be better for the economy, along with fewer diseases getting spread around. We just spent billions on banks who have done absolutely nothing to better the country with the money they received, unless you're using some kind of double think in reasoning that some fat cat retiring happily some how helps you. Then there's the whole gay marriage thing, if a church doesn't want to recognize their marriage fine whatever that's their choice. But last I checked the American government was never designed to enforce ANY religious doctrine period. It's two people who already live together, who are already sharing their life with each other, that will make absolutely no difference to anybody's current or future hetero marriage. Last I checked the average span of hetero marriages was only 7 years. So why not let them share in the agony of divorce as well? Why are Republicans so concerned about people's private life anyway?

The right wing are, basically, anti-social. They do not subscribe to social contract theory. They do not trust their neighbors. They're radical individualists who trust only themselves and those they directly pay to provide food, shelter, protection (from the rapacious masses), &c. They see society as a dog-eat-dog competition, not as a co-operative enterprise.

 

[T-Dawg]

Well if you want some common ground, let's destroy China, we'll write off our debt to them and over throw a totalitarian government in one fell swoop. Really it's the least the Republicans can do, as it stands it seems rather hypocritical of you all to talk so negatively about socialism and support a communist country at the same time they way you do by doing so much business with them. The Republic of China is the antithesis of what we say America stands for after all, so why the hell are we even supporting them in any fashion to begin with? We should have never dropped a single dime into the economy to begin with, now look at them, they are on the threshold of surpassing us, they have more money than this country, their army is like twice the size in man power, they're nuclear capable, they even have their own space program, and we owe THEM money. If they ever decided to cash in and collect we'd be screwed.

I completely agree. I actually asked this in one of my threads =O.

Why are Republicans so concerned about people's private life anyway?

Probably because they have a history of sucking in public life XD.

 

[Father Heathen]

All news is propaganda. I fixed your disclaimer for you. Fox news has the highest ratings. That does not make everything factual however. News shows have become entertainment.

I believe this country is splitting in half. There are few common goals any more.

Well, let's look at the values that this nation as founded upon; liberty, rights, equality and justice, next let's look at those who've tried to protect and further these values, and then at those who've tried to undermine and undo these values. That's where the real line is drawn, so tell me who is on who's side in this?
Do you think The Founding Fathers intended for the U.S. to be ran socially like a parish, and fiscally like a bordello?

 

[Father Heathen]

Amsterdam compared to USA on per capita basis. O'Reilly and FOX talking heads shown to be damn fools.

Why are conservatives so dishonest and why do they hate freedom so much? And how can FOX "news" even pretend to be "fair and objective" when their political agenda and bias is so blatantly obvious? Makes me sick.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

The right wing are, basically, anti-social. They do not subscribe to social contract theory. They do not trust their neighbors. They're radical individualists who trust only themselves and those they directly pay to provide food, shelter, protection (from the rapacious masses), &c. They see society as a dog-eat-dog competition, not as a co-operative enterprise.

And yet they have this bizarre alliance with people who say they worship and follow Jesus....

Sunstone is totally correct, the right wing is dominated by a mass of authoritarian followers, who are basically good people, lead by authoritarian leaders -- who don't believe in anything but every man for himself, and their own drive to the top. Just as Seyorni described.

 

[Alceste]

Uh... Why are they dissing Amsterdam? Did the Netherlands recently do something to upset Rupert Murdoch? Or did the Netherlands come up in a positive light during a health care debate? Or what? Did a Democrat go there on holiday and say he liked it? What?

I will never understand why American conservatives hate Europe so much. What does Europe have to do with them?

 

[J Bryson]

Why is the size of a farm relevant, Rick?

He needs a bigger field to spread that much B.S.

 

[T-Dawg]

I will never understand why American conservatives hate Europe so much. What does Europe have to do with them?

1.) Europe is more socialist than them, thus they try to demonize europe, and then use "europe does so and so!" as a reason not to do so and so (ie, healthcare).
2.) Some people haven't realized that the revolutionary war is over.

 

[Father Heathen]

Uh... Why are they dissing Amsterdam? Did the Netherlands recently do something to upset Rupert Murdoch? Or did the Netherlands come up in a positive light during a health care debate? Or what? Did a Democrat go there on holiday and say he liked it? What?

I will never understand why American conservatives hate Europe so much. What does Europe have to do with them?

They're just jealous of Netherlands' freedom.

 

[T-Dawg]

He needs a bigger field to spread that much B.S.

No, he was actually making fun of Netherland's size. Really, it isn't that tiny . Netherlands is about a third the size of Kentucky, and I doubt that the farms in kentucky are that big.

They're just jealous of Netherlands' freedom.

No, most Americans seriously believe that they are free. Which I don't get, seeing that we're effectively in a fascist dictatorship, and every "news" station we have is a propaganda arm of the major parties.

 

[Quagmire]

Can a country sue for defamation ?

It was more like defecation. :yes:

 

[J Bryson]

No, he was actually making fun of Netherland's size. Really, it isn't that tiny . Netherlands is about a third the size of Kentucky, and I doubt that the farms in kentucky are that big.

Yes, but the joke was there to be made.