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Detachment and suffering

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Could it have been that he felt he couldn't get a higher a higher-paying job? Or handle the responsibilty of a higher-paying job?
In retrospect, I think that is what it was, but it does not matter now. I used to think he could do more just because I could do so much, be he is not me. Hindsight is 20-20.
I hadn't heard that tidbit that that you will sue them if you cannot find out to your satisfaction why this happened. It is good to make sure they did something wrong before you sue. That's the attitude. However beware of a lawyer possibly misleading you about the situation because he wants to make more money. Get a lawyer that is trustworthy and has integrity as far as you can tell. You want justice, but make as sure as you can you don't inadvertantly fall into injustice.
I am not worried about that. Attorneys won't take a case if they do not think there is a case that they can win. If they can win the case that means there was negligence, so me telling my story is a way to find out if there was negligence. I would rather think it was not, that this was just more tragedy for me and Lewis, because as you know I do not need any money, but I absolutely have to know and I will call as many law firms as it takes to find out if there was negligence.
Yes, no friends there in person. My friendship at a distance does little good. I can't deal with your situation, you have to do most of it. Are you afraid you will fall apart when you see Lewis? I am afraid with you.
The situation is now worse and the Baha'is have stepped in to help me in person. I absolutely don't know what I would do without the Baha'i community. I do not want to say any more here because there are lurkers. Suffice to say I will probably be calling you on the phone soon.
 
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Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
In retrospect, I think that is what it was, but it does not matter now. I used to think he could do more just because I could do so much, be he is not me. Hindsight is 20-20.
I knew about myself that I couldn't handle being a supervisor. My record as an employee was checkered. I worked better alone, and when I found the work boring my attention deficit kicked in and I had a hard time concentrating on what I was supposed to do. In addition, I didn't really work often in the right spirit of getting as much done as quckly as I could. I knew the deadline of what I was supposed to do, and worked accordingly. In some tasks I had little self-confidence in myself and thus the stress level was high which made it hard for me to function. I didn't know how to take the initiative through much of my employment and say "I am idle right now. What else can I do?" I was rather passive about that. It was only towards the end that I learned to be less passive about asking for more to do.

After I was laid off, at first I was interested in persuing a new line of being an actuary for an insurance company since I am a math whiz, and have a lot of interest in statistics. But one attribute an actuary is supposed to have is being able to communicate well orally with others, and that's not me at all. I imagine also my attention deficit would have caused me trouble again. I went to one job interview at Geico at Washington, D.C. and as usual didn't do well in the job interview. Incidentally I met Dale Lehman and his wife Kathleen at that time for the second time, and I think three of his children for the first time. I've always been really bad at that. I hate selling myself and also am not good at oral communication. I also didn't feel confident in myself. After that experience, I decided to can trying an actuary, which may not have been the best decision. I tried to go back to being a computer programmer or being otherwise involved in computer software. Most of my previous experience though had been the computer language Fortran which was hardly used any more. I went to the local community college to learn other computer languages so I would have something to offer. However, I hadn't really worked as a programmer for a lot of years, and I didn't have experience working in those languages, and frankly I was not well trained for how people in computer software worked these days. The companies knew that and I never even got a job interview. If I had gotten a job interview, I probably would have not done well. At that point I knew I would never get into the computer software field again, and I had no idea what to work towards next. Any job I could think of I had no enthusiasm for, and I figured whatever it was, it would pay less than my disability payments. I had no where to go with my math skills. At that point, I gave up, and lived on my disability and the trust from my parents. Sara had not had much education, and originally had been a LPN, which she had given up soon after we got married. Until Michael left home Sara could hardly have a paying job because of Michael's needs. After Michael left home, Sara got low paying jobs to help out. Before Michael left I had a higher disability payment to take care of Sara and Michael. Sara developed what we think is Parkinson's and she stopped being able to have paying jobs. She gets a ridicuously low Social Security payment each month because she hadn't made much money working in her lifetime. As if raising and taking care of Michael isn't work.
The situation is now worse and the Baha'is have stepped in to help me in person. I absolutely don't know what I would do without the Baha'i community. I do not want to say any more here because there are lurkers. Suffice to say I will probably be calling you on the phone soon.
This crisis at least started getting you involved in your local Baha'i community. I hope you develop close frienships with at least one of them. I have a Zoom meeting from 7:00 to 8:30 my time today, which would be 4:00 to 5:30 your time.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
This crisis at least started getting you involved in your local Baha'i community. I hope you develop close frienships with at least one of them. I have a Zoom meeting from 7:00 to 8:30 my time today, which would be 4:00 to 5:30 your time.
I have not wanted to bother the Baha'is with all my problems, which were constant, and that's why I have kept to myself.

I wish it had not had to come to this for me to contact the Baha'is.
If one person says "this happened for a reason" as if it is 'good' that this happened because now I am more involved with the Baha'is I am going to get really angry. Nobody except God knows why these tragedies happen. People imagine all kinds of things but I do not believe that God caused this to happen so I will get more involved with the Baha'is.

I think it was the negligence of the health care system that caused this to happen, and I will find out if I have to call every law firm in the United States. What I want is justice. People should not have to die because a doctor or doctors slipped up and not pay for their mistakes.

Of course you know if I ever got a settlement it would all go to the Baha'i Fund, and I would want to allocate the money for teaching.
 

samtonga43

Well-Known Member
I do want advice, from people I trust, people who are kind. I listen to those people all day long and often cry out for help.
I had hoped that my comments would encourage you to think laterally, because in my opinion you would gain some insight.

I do not want your opinion because the delivery is always mean and critical.
Sometimes one needs more than “Oh, you poor thing!” Sometimes the kindest thing to do is to encourage you to think outside your box. If you wish to stay in your box, you must live with the consequences.

You do not know the half of it. You only see one side, the side you want to see.
I see what I read on this forum, on the surface and between the lines. This is all I can respond to.

He is dying by choice, because he has refused any cancer treatment. An oncologist who specializes in the kind of cancer he has reviewed his case and she said she has a treatment she can offer him. He has chosen instead to die and he could not care less about me and what I will have to endure after he dies.

He has a right to refuse treatment, Tb. Please try to stop thinking about yourself so much. Have some compassion and let him live the rest of his life as he wishes.

I have a right to feel as I feel, and I am not hurting anyone by having feelings. I have never been anything but kind and caring to my husband. Nobody else in this world cares if he lives or dies and yet he throws me away like an old pair of shoes, after I cared for him for 37 years. It is those who are left behind who suffer most, not people who die, as they go to heaven.
No, it is not always those who are left who suffer most. You are wallowing in self-pity, and this will not help you..

Oh, can you find these posts that are mean and critical like your posts?
They are not mean and critical. They are truthful and private.

I do not have any problems with anyone on this forum except you, and that is because nobody acts like you except you. I like everyone here and get along with everyone no matter what thye believe or disbelieve.
If you say so.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
He has a right to refuse treatment, Tb. Please try to stop thinking about yourself so much. Have some compassion and let him live the rest of his life as he wishes.
He is not refusing treatment. I had a misconception based upon miscommunication that has been going on in the hospital.

I saw my husband last night in the hospital and he told me that he does not want to die so it is my moral obligation to get him any help that is available. If I was thinking about myself I would not be willing to go through all this to help him, I would just let him die and get on with my life.
 

samtonga43

Well-Known Member
I said, based on information posted by you:
"He has a right to refuse treatment, Tb. Please try to stop thinking about yourself so much. Have some compassion and let him live the rest of his life as he wishes".

However, I am glad you have realized you were in error.

I saw my husband last night in the hospital and he told me that he does not want to die so it is my moral obligation to get him any help that is available. If I was thinking about myself I would not be willing to go through all this to help him, I would just let him die and get on with my life.

Just love him, Tb.
Love him.
 
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