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Diabetes Questions. Help Please?

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I heard Dr. Dru (KROQ etc...) once talk about cases of people who had multiple personality syndrome and how these people had diabetes... but Dr. Dru was perplexed because some of the personalities these Diabetic people had did not have diabetes. I don't know what that means. Just thought I'd share.

Im all for the power of the mind but this is like saying that someone with MPD is pregnant but not all the personalites are.You either have diabetes or you dont.It can be controlled though to where you keep your blood sugar levels stable to that of a non diabetic.IOW the symptoms of diabetes disappear..but they will reapear quickly if you dont manage it.

Right now my husbands blood sugar levels are in the "normal range" with eating right and taking his medications.If he stopped taking his meds and began to eat poorly he would quickly develop the symptoms back and in the process do more premenent damage to his cells.So I can see where if his "personality" changed to eating right and taking his meds made his diabetes "invisible" if checked by a doctor and if his "personalilty" switched back to eating Mcdonalds twice a day and stuffing fried apple pie in his face daily the symptoms woudl reapear with that personality.

Love

Dallas
 
Im all for the power of the mind but this is like saying that someone with MPD is pregnant but not all the personalites are.You either have diabetes or you dont.It can be controlled though to where you keep your blood sugar levels stable to that of a non diabetic.IOW the symptoms of diabetes disappear..but they will reapear quickly if you dont manage it.

Right now my husbands blood sugar levels are in the "normal range" with eating right and taking his medications.If he stopped taking his meds and began to eat poorly he would quickly develop the symptoms back and in the process do more premenent damage to his cells.So I can see where if his "personality" changed to eating right and taking his meds made his diabetes "invisible" if checked by a doctor and if his "personalilty" switched back to eating Mcdonalds twice a day and stuffing fried apple pie in his face daily the symptoms woudl reapear with that personality.

Love

Dallas

Yes, I understand how you reacted to what information I shared. Please note that I didn't make it up. It came from a well respected doctor.

I just personally found the insight fascinating and believe that it warrants more investigation. Or should we limit ourselves in trying to understand what disease is and what ultimately causes disease?

***quote Micheal Talbot***

Dr. Bennet Braun of the International Society for the Study of Multiple Personality, in Chicago, has documented a case in which all of a patient's subpersonalities were allergic to orange juice, except one. If the man drank orange juice when one of his allergic personalities was in control, he would break out in a terrible rash. But if he switched to his nonallergic personality, the rash would instantly start to fade and he could drink orange juice freely.


Allergies are not the only thing multiples can switch on and off. If there was any doubt as to the control of the unconscious mind has over drug effects, it is banished by the pharmacological wizardry of the multiple. By changing personalities, a multiple who is drunk can instantly become sober. Different personalities also respond differently to different drugs.


Braun records a case in which 5 milligrams of diazepam, a tranquilizer, sedated one personality, while 100 milligrams had little or no effect on another.


Often one or several of a multiple's personalities are children, and if an adult personality is given a drug and then a child's personality take over, the adult dosage may be too much for the child and result in an overdose. It is also difficult to anesthetize some multiples, and there are accounts of multiples waking up on the operating table after one of their "unanesthetizable" subpersonalities has taken over.


Other conditions that can vary from personality to personality include scars, burn marks, cysts, and left- and right-handedness. Visual acuity can differ, and some multiples have to carry two or three different pairs of eyeglasses to accommodate their alternating personalities. One personality can be color-blind and another not, and even eye color can change.



There are cases of women who have two or three menstrual periods each month because each of their subpersonalities has its own cycle.
Speech pathologist Christy Ludlow has found that the voice pattern for each of a multiple's personalities is different, a feat that requires such a deep physiological change that even the most accomplished actor cannot alter his voice enough to disguise his voice pattern.


One multiple, admitted to a hospital for diabetes, baffled her doctors by showing no symptoms when one of her nondiabetic personalities was in control.


There are accounts of epilepsy coming and going with changes in personality, and psychologist Robert A. Phillips, Jr. reports that even tumors can appear and disappear (although he does not specify what kind of tumors).



***end quote***
 
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DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Gosh...

I wish I knew how to change my personality last week when I had an exploding (litterally ) absess in my head and I could have made my doctors amazed that I didnt have a massive infection from a rotten wisdom tooth in my head go away by changing from "Dallas" to maybe N.Y.C or something.

Yeah that would have been nice.."rotten tooth reverses to pristine in the switch of a personality".

Or is it only certain conditions and illnesses that "go away" with personality changes"?

Love

Dallas
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
My daddy was just diagnosed with diabetes and he's freaking out a little.

Tiny bit of background: he's 72 years old and weighs roughly 285-300lbs. He's also got arthritis in his shoulders and knees.

So if anyone knows anything about diabetes, I have a few questions, I'd really appreciate some help with.

1) What is he allowed/not allowed to eat? What should he eat? What specific foods are good for him? What specific foods are bad for him? How much should he eat? How often?

2) Because of his age, weight and arthritis, he's not much of an excersizer of ANY kind. Obviously, he should start excersizing, right? What should he start with? Walking?

3) He's not a smoker, or a drinker, but he is obviously an eater, and a big pepsi drinker. Can/should he switch to diet soda, or should he full out cut soda out of his diet and switch to water? Is he allowed to drink milk? Juice? Coffee?

4) Can he die?

Please help
Wouldn't it be more realistic to take these questions to his doctor, C_O?
If my Mom developed some kind of medical problem it wouldn't occur to me to hop on to an internet forum to get advice.
That would seem incredibly foolish if not down right irresponsible.

Ask to see the doctor with or without your dad, preferably with him and get the answers to the questions both of you have.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
Wouldn't it be more realistic to take these questions to his doctor, C_O?
If my Mom developed some kind of medical problem it wouldn't occur to me to hop on to an internet forum to get advice.
That would seem incredibly foolish if not down right irresponsible.

Ask to see the doctor with or without your dad, preferably with him and get the answers to the questions both of you have.

We have an appointment with the doctor. We made one the day we found it. It's for next wednesday.

However, since he can't very well starve himself until next week, I figured my best option was to ask someone who had diabetes, what would be the best things for him to eat until the time when I can speak with his doctor.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Wouldn't it be more realistic to take these questions to his doctor, C_O?
If my Mom developed some kind of medical problem it wouldn't occur to me to hop on to an internet forum to get advice.
That would seem incredibly foolish if not down right irresponsible.

Ask to see the doctor with or without your dad, preferably with him and get the answers to the questions both of you have.

I dont think she is relying on the internet for his "treatment plan".But I cant tell you how much it helped me to be able to ask people with the disease questions about diet and to just not feel so alone.

If I had known someone in person(face to face) with it that had it under control like a relative or IRL(face to face) friend I certainly would have asked them questions.

My husband didnt only rely on advice from other people and his/and my research he is is also taking two different drugs the doctor gave him and he checks his blood sugar with a monitor frequently ...

I think its wrong to shame people or make them feel "foolish" if they are going to the doctor but also talk to regular people some that have lived with this disease for decades and are healthy and magaging it "how do you handlle it".

Its one thing if you are showing the symptoms of diabetes and you go to "regular people" and try and determine if they have it or not and then diagnose it your self and then lay out a treatment plan.That would be dumb and dangerous.

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
We have an appointment with the doctor. We made one the day we found it. It's for next wednesday.

However, since he can't very well starve himself until next week, I figured my best option was to ask someone who had diabetes, what would be the best things for him to eat until the time when I can speak with his doctor.

((((HUGS))))

I did the same thing.. :sad4:(except for his next appointment was a month away)


Love

Dallas
 
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DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Wouldn't it be more realistic to take these questions to his doctor, C_O?
If my Mom developed some kind of medical problem it wouldn't occur to me to hop on to an internet forum to get advice.
That would seem incredibly foolish if not down right irresponsible.

Ask to see the doctor with or without your dad, preferably with him and get the answers to the questions both of you have.

Maybe it wouldnt "occur to you to hop on an internet forum" if your mom was diagnosed with a condition that millions and millions of people are living with that is treatable with diet.But it sure as hell would occur to me.

So both Cirlce and I are fools and irresponsible.So is my husband who went the internet and began searching for information.

Love

Dallas
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
We have an appointment with the doctor. We made one the day we found it. It's for next wednesday.

However, since he can't very well starve himself until next week, I figured my best option was to ask someone who had diabetes, what would be the best things for him to eat until the time when I can speak with his doctor.
Another thought: does Quebec have a service like Telehealth Ontario? Here, we can phone a number run by the Ministry of Health and get health and medical advice from a nurse.

Actually, if you don't have this where you are, you could always try calling Telehealth; you don't have to give an Ontario health card number. Maybe their toll-free line will work from Quebec.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
At 72 he should not worry. The chances are he will live to 80 anyway.
There is no panic to start any diet or treatment, he has lived with it long enough , a few days will make no difference.
However a man who has abused himself to the extent of weighing 300 lbs and taking no exercise, must expect to get late onset diabetes. It come with the territory as does heart disease and joint problems.
I am now 75 and weigh 200 lbs eat a healthy diet, and until recently did plenty of exercise. Fortunately I have not developed Diabetes, though I have some arthritis and some heart disease ( still being checked out.)

We all get older and wear out our bodies in proportion to how well we look after them.

I am only marginally concerned that I may well die in the not too distant future, but I am only worried about the work this will involve my family in, sorting out when I am gone. However it is not a problem for myself.
I have had a good innings and few regrets. I will find out soon enough the answers to a few arguments we have had on this forum.

Your Dad should get advice on a good diet ... stick to it... and follow any exercise regime set for Him. Mostly he should stop worrying and start enjoying life.


Look around at all the hundreds of other men with both the same age and physical shape as your dad. It is not far from normal these days in western countries.
 
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DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
There is no panic to start any diet or treatment, he has lived with it long enough , a few days will make no difference.

I agree with this too.Except there is no reason not to go ahead and start now eliminating what you know is bad and making better food choices.That actually helps ease your panicky feeling knowing you are doing something now to start on the road to better health.

My husbands dr. started him on medications the same day because his numbers were so bad.And I think its just human nature if you are diagnosed with this condition specifically to wonder everyday if what you are eating is "good or bad" for you.Especially in cases like my husbands where his eyes were being damaged.Thats how he found out.He went from perfect vision to complete near sidedeness in a few months (he was 43 when diagnosed).

Luckily his vision was completely restored.

Anyway you shouldnt panic...but again knowing your poor eating habits is a direct cause and huge part of treating it is changing those habits you do feel a sense of urgency to gain the knowledge of "what should I eat" and what should I not eat"..

Food wich we need obviously everyday you are standing there faced with every piece of food wondering if its O.K or not to eat.Just telling someone not to worry about it is unrealistic.Not to mention your already mad at your self and at the same time depressed because you think you can never enjoy food again.So it really helps to start looking into what food you CAN have.

I dont think its a coincidence so many have the very same reactions and feelings.And one of those is you dont feel like waiting around to get the ball rolling.Im not saying its "impossible" but close to it because its the food you are putting in your mouth that you know is part of the cure/treatment so you wonder "should I eat this"?And we are not talking about a donut.We are talking about an orange or a piece of cheese.And I completely sympathise and relate to what a helpless feeling that is.

Love

Dallas
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
What's his blood sugar been running?

I have no idea yet. We have a thorough doctor's appointment on Wednesday. We got the news through a phone call. We had gone to the doctor two weeks ago for just a general checkup because his knees and shoulders had been bothering him. I asked the doctor to do a thorough check up of his bloodwork and everything else, just to be sure, and when I called the doctor last weekend, he gave me the news that he had diabetes as well as arthritis in his shoulders and knees and I made an appointment for him then, for Wednesday.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
OK. Diabetes is an epidemic these days, for some reason. It seems like half the population has it, so there's no shortage of information or resources out there. If you're worried you can go to the drugstore and buy a glucometer and check his blood sugar yourself, today.

Don't panic. High blood sugar, at least under 300ish, harms slowly. Just lay off the sweets and white flour foods till you get your glucometer and can check his levels.

In a nutshell: Your cells run on sugar. Diabetes is a sugar management disorder and comes in several forms. Monitoring a diabetic's condition is mainly done by measuring serum glucose, AKA blood sugar levels. Normally it hovers around 100. After a meal it can go up ten or fifteen points but should quickly stabilise back down to baseline. In the morning, after 12 hours of no food it could be down ten points. That's normal.
Diabetics' blood sugar runs too high, and this damages capillaries and body parts particularly sensitive to circulatory compromise.

Your father should be checking his sugar frequently 'till he learns what sends it up or down. If he can keep it between about 90 and 140 with diet, exercise &/or meds he'll be doing fine.
 
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