Did atheism transform into a religion?

[pro4life]

I'm pretty much the same way, and yes we are the kinds of people the OP...and the hundred other "atheism is a religion" threads are talking about.

It's still incorrect to call atheism a religion, however. There is no story, no tale, no moral code, no Gods, demi-gods, no angels no demons, no nothing in common whatsoever.

All this accusation is, is sad bellyaching from defensive theists as they watch their numbers dwindle year after year. For a long time no one dared say anything about religion, the bully religious majority would destroy you. I'll repeat once again that in 1987...less than 30 years ago...George Bush stated publically that atheist should not be considered American citizens, nor patriots. Theists...specifically Christians in America...were insulated from any criticism at all.

These days we can criticize, and boy, they really aren't used to it. Say one small thing and it's "the war on Christianity" or "these arrogant atheists, boy they just won't shut up." Such thin skin. If your religion is so great, defend it on merit, don't complain about atheists who might criticize. Until the President of the United States tells you people of your religion shouldn't be considered American citizens, you have no idea what real criticism is like, so stop with the thin skin whining act.

Some atheists might differ on your principles. For example moral code, many atheists say they do uphold certain practical moral codes .

 

[dust1n]

Anti-thiest --- so you are against religion. You will say and do things that is against religion. You will proclaim ideas that negate religion. You sir here and your anti-thiest friends have a strict goal to achieve, a movement of some sort. This movement recently in the last decade has blown up into a religion, with policies regulations and set of beliefs.

Great. So there is nothing special about religion. It's only as true as atheism.

 

[Demonslayer]

Anti-thiest --- so you are against religion. You will say and do things that is against religion. You will proclaim ideas that negate religion. You sir here and your anti-thiest friends have a strict goal to achieve, a movement of some sort.

Is environmentalism a religion? Environmentalists are against polution, say and do things against polution, proclaim ideas against polution, and have a strict goal to achieve in protecting the environment.

What about the NRA? Is the NRA a religion? They are against gun regulation, say and do things against gun regulation, proclaim ideas about gun regulation, and have a strict goal to achieve no gun regulation.

What about anti-abortionists? Have anti-abortionists formed a religion? They are against abortion, say and do things against abortion, proclaim ideas against abortion, and have a strict goal to end legal abortion.

What about legal marijuana advocates? Are legal marijuana advocates a religion now too? They are against illegal marijuana, say and do things supporting legalization of marijuana, proclaim ideas supporting legal marijunana, and have a strict goal of getting marijunana legalized?

Why don't theists constantly say "jeez, environmentalism is a religion!" or "the NRA is a religion" or "anti-abortionists are a religion" or "legal marijunana advocates" are a religion? Or 1000 other examples I could easily come up with.

WHY ONLY ATHEISTS? Answer? Because you're butthurt when people criticize your religion. Get over it.

 

[Demonslayer]

For example moral code, many atheists say they do uphold certain practical moral codes .

Do tell, what is the "atheist moral code?"

 

[Rick O'Shez]

WHY ONLY ATHEISTS? Answer? Because you're butthurt when people criticize your religion. Get over it.

Yeah! People will be saying that ice-cream is a religion next!

 

[McBell]

Anti-thiest --- so you are against religion. You will say and do things that is against religion. You will proclaim ideas that negate religion. You sir here and your anti-thiest friends have a strict goal to achieve, a movement of some sort. This movement recently in the last decade has blown up into a religion, with policies regulations and set of beliefs. Take for example the church of Scientology-- boom all are atheists.

Please list these alleged policies and regulation.

 

[psychoslice]

Says the one with 7000+ comments in "religious forums"

So ?, comments don't mean anything, to you they might but not me, I just say what I want to say at the given moment, and then its gone, just let it go, why dig up the past to shove into someone's face lol.

 

[icehorse]

Anti-thiest --- so you are against religion. You will say and do things that is against religion. You will proclaim ideas that negate religion. You sir here and your anti-thiest friends have a strict goal to achieve, a movement of some sort.

The above is more or less correct.

This movement recently in the last decade has blown up into a religion, with policies regulations and set of beliefs. Take for example the church of Scientology-- boom all are atheists.

This part is nonsense.

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It's simple for me. I think that beliefs have effects on behavior. I think that much of what religious people believe is immoral and that it often affects their behavior in counter-productive ways. (effects / affects - i'm an editor and I can never keep them straight )

Here are some examples of the beliefs / bad behaviors:

- Jesus is returning so we don't have to take care of the planet
- The earth is 6000 years old, so we need to "change" how we teach science
- condoms are worse than AIDs
- Pedophilic preachers deserve sanctuary
- God made us masters of the earth, so we can pillage it endlessly
- Basic human rights should be limited because the Quran says so

and so on

 

[Deathbydefault]

Do tell, what is the "atheist moral code?"

Who was it that was talking about how it takes a religion to turn a normal moral person into a subpar human being?

He used genital mutilation as an example.
Saying that no normal moral person could see a baby and think "well let's cut some penis skin off".
Then he seemingly got really angry as the man he was talking to didn't comprehend "genital mutilation".
Saying something like, "what if I told you my daughter cried more at her first haircut, than when I cut her clitoris off?".
Because the man had said his own son had cried more at his first haircut than during circumcision.

The point is, to be a normal moral person, religion is not required.
In some cases, being religious can make you less of a moral person.

@pro4life
Instead of questioning atheist morality, perhaps you should question your own.
If your religion called for every child to have their left middle toe cut off, would you cut it off?
Would you be against having it cut off?
Would you even think anything of it? It would just be normal to you, would it not?

Under the logic of "cause God said so", only idiocy can be created.
I am assuming you are religious, but it's not exactly a far fetched assumption.

 

[Awkward Fingers]

Some atheists might differ on your principles. For example moral code, many atheists say they do uphold certain practical moral codes .

I would like to see you quote an atheist, or point one out that claims he receives his moral code from his atheism, please.

 

[icehorse]

I would like to see you quote an atheist, or point one out that claims he receives his moral code from his atheism, please.

How about if I said I got my moral code from the advances made by secular society?

 

[Awkward Fingers]

How about if I said I got my moral code from the advances made by secular society?

I'm pretty sure most atheists will call their morals as given by their worldview, be it secular humanism, egalitarianism, Buddhism, or what have you.
I've never seen an atheist say he got his morals from "atheism," which is what I'm checking if pro4life is saying.