Did God say that?! I Rape in the bible

[Autodidact]

Quran isn't like the bible,as you saw, Quoting verses out of context didn't help your lisbian-atheist misleading desires.

Are you familiar with the term "ad hominem fallacy?" This is a classic example. And you know what fallacy means, right?

 

[Autodidact]

So Zakhir, if Islam isn't the problem, why do you think Muslims are embroiled in so much violence?

 

[Zhakir]

So Zakhir, if Islam isn't the problem,

Yes it isn't the problem,this is what we prove.

why do you think Muslims are embroiled in so much violence?

First why do you think Christians and atheist are embroiled in so much violence?
Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They lied the weapons of mass distruction thing,right? then colin powell resigned.
Bush said it's another crusade,and laughed!

And why wasn't christianity blamed for what Hitler did? He was the one who killed the maximum number of human beings?

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About the terrorist groups acts
There is a huge different between Muslims and christians
Quran doesn't teach terror,and this clear,some muslim aren't following it,and this isn't islam's problem.
Bible commands terror and this clear www.evilbible.com
Christian terrorist have their own clear explaination, The bible
Fundamentalist Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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If we are discussing religion,the authentic sources is the best way.

 

[sojourner]

Quran is not like the bible

Now we're entering the realm of reality. (I don't expect us to be here long, so don't blink.)

let me continue proving this.

I told you so.

Continue? You haven't begun a proof yet.

 

[sojourner]

Yes,Allah almighty Glory to him isn't Messiah. And those who claim such things like
God being the son of him self, the father of him self the creator of his mother (older and younger than her).etc trinity...
Are infidels,they will be cast out in hell fire.

Thanks for the condemnation. We love you, too!

 

[sojourner]

you don't believe that
God being the son of him self, the father of him self the creator of his mother (older and younger than her).etc trinity...
Right?
No one does it's impossible!

Classic straw man. No one believes this, because this isn't the doctrine of the Trinity. It's a butchering of a misconception of the doctrine of the Trinity.

And you aren't a real hindu if you don't believe in hell

And you aren't a real Muslim if you don't believe in peace.
(Why are you so inflammatory, and intent on fighting everyone here, anyway?)

 

[sojourner]

It's your choice if you want to leave hinduism.
This is a religion that believes in Hell,and your sayings aren't changing this fact
Karma in Hinduism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What gives you the right to tell other people what they do and don't believe? Who died and made you the religion police? It takes about 12 kinds of stupid to think that you know more about our faith than we do. "If you're Hindu, you have to believe this." Idiot.

 

[sojourner]

Another out of contex.........

But Zhakir never takes Biblical quotations out of context, then twists their interpretation in order to defame the Bible and everyone who holds it sacred.
Why don't you just be a man and admit that your premise in the OP is WRONG and get on with your life?

 

[sojourner]

The original text (in Aramice-it's almost a dead language, few people speak it in a part of syira but not for long- the language of jesus (pbuh) ) of the NT isn't there
Only the translations are there.

You don't know what you're talking about! This is more than ludicrous -- this is unbelievable!
The original texts of the NT WEREin Greek. Now who's spreading lies?

 

[sojourner]

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Taken out of context. This is a text about racial purity, not a text about moral commandment. It's a story. Period.

The writer ( God as you claim) commands to kill nonbelievers.

We don't claim that God was the writer. You claim that God was the writer. There is no commandment to kill non-believers. There is only a story. Are you going to claim next that, since Arnold Swarzenegger kills a lot of people in Commando (and Arnold is Christian), that this constitutes a "commandment of God to kill?"

isn't that evil?

What's evil is your defamation of the Bible and the people who revere it.
YOUR PREMISE IS WRONG.

 

[sojourner]

If we are discussing religion,the authentic sources is the best way.

Oh, yeah. "evilbible.com" is an "authentic source." Get over yourself.

Fundamentalist Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you understand what a miniscule percentage of Xy fundamentalism constitutes?

Quran doesn't teach terror,and this clear,some muslim aren't following it,and this isn't islam's problem.

Does the Koran teach bullying? Because that's what you're doing here.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

http://www.freedomfaith.org

 

[Don Penguinoini]

It's your choice if you want to leave hinduism.
This is a religion that believes in Hell,and your sayings aren't changing this fact
Karma in Hinduism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol... You tell me my religion? Our people change with time. We don't do what you do. I suppose Muslims still engage in stonings... Because you're a real Muslim. You do what they did however many thousands of years ago they did it. I suppose raping a woman who does not go out without a man is perfectly acceptable, and slapping your wives...

And Wikipedia is no authority in my religion. Wikipedia is useless when it comes to Hinduism. The best source is a Hindu itself, like ME.

 

[sojourner]

Lol... You tell me my religion? Our people change with time. We don't do what you do. I suppose Muslims still engage in stonings... Because you're a real Muslim. You do what they did however many thousands of years ago they did it. I suppose raping a woman who does not go out without a man is perfectly acceptable, and slapping your wives...

And Wikipedia is no authority in my religion. Wikipedia is useless when it comes to Hinduism. The best source is a Hindu itself, like ME.

I don't think Zhak understands the concept of religion being fluid -- or religious texts being fluid. I don't think he understands the concept of belief growing and changing according to new experience.
What're ya gonna do?
:banghead3

 

[Zhakir]

First of all,even if these where stories,this doesn't mean that the writers command evil,they are Orders to kill.
Every christian has his own ideology of Bible and christianit,Sojourner

We don't claim that God was the writer. You claim that God was the writer. There is no commandment to kill non-believers. There is only a story. Are you going to claim next that, since Arnold Swarzenegger kills a lot of people in Commando (and Arnold is Christian), that this constitutes a "commandment of God to kill?"

Also when it comes about the bible's scientific errors
But many christian say that they believe that God put these things(errors,contradictions) in the bible,but they have no explaination for this.
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If you dis agree that Quran doesn't teaches terror,then here it is show us the proof Verses from the Quran
Only saying "you haven't proved any thing" doesn't count.

 

[Zhakir]

Lol... You tell me my religion? Our people change with time. We don't do what you do. I suppose Muslims still engage in stonings... Because you're a real Muslim. You do what they did however many thousands of years ago they did it. I suppose raping a woman who does not go out without a man is perfectly acceptable, and slapping your wives...

And Wikipedia is no authority in my religion. Wikipedia is useless when it comes to Hinduism. The best source is a Hindu itself, like ME.

(your people change with time,so the vedas)prove this.thoses who believe in vedas believe in hell.
If you don't ,this isn't hinduism's problem.it's a religion that believes in hell.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

(your people change with time,so the vedas)prove this.thoses who believe in vedas believe in hell.
If you don't ,this isn't hinduism's problem.it's a religion that believes in hell.

The Vedas does not need to change, it is the oldest scripture in the world, and often called the most beautiful, why change beauty? Unlike Muslims, we are human beings, not robots programmed to the Quran. Prove it? Ok, 1000 years ago, the caste system was rampant and people were UNFAIRLY being discriminated against because of their "caste" While it happens today, it is illegal and it has been mostly eradicated from Indian cities. How about for a positive change?

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It is disgusting and i hate it. Just like i suppose you hate terrorists, right?

 

[Zhakir]

The Vedas does not need to change, it is the oldest scripture in the world, and often called the most beautiful, why change beauty? Unlike Muslims, we are human beings, not robots programmed to the Quran. Prove it? Ok, 1000 years ago, the caste system was rampant and people were UNFAIRLY being discriminated against because of their "caste" While it happens today, it is illegal and it has been mostly eradicated from Indian cities. How about for a positive change?

Caste system in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is disgusting and i hate it. Just like i suppose you hate terrorists, right?

This doesn't prove the the hinduism religion has changed,to not believing in Karama or Hell,you just denying your own scriptures unlike hindus.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

This doesn't prove the the hinduism religion has changed,to not believing in Karama or Hell,you just denying your own scriptures unlike hindus.

It does prove it has changed. It was a part of Hinduism at a point, not any more. I believe in Karma, and i do believe in Hell, just not the hell you think of. Or the heaven reserved for terrorists.


Do you hate terrorists, Zhak? Do you get that you just ignore my post and post whatever you want, completely irrelevant to what I said.

 

[Zhakir]

It does prove it has changed. It was a part of Hinduism at a point, not any more. I believe in Karma, and i do believe in Hell, just not the hell you think of. Or the heaven reserved for terrorists.


Do you hate terrorists, Zhak? Do you get that you just ignore my post and post whatever you want, completely irrelevant to what I said.

I wish terrorist will get back to Quran.
Janah is not for terrorists actually,they should repent.
You finally get to admit and believe in karama the palce of suffering of sinners.
And also you should believen in janah.
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