psychoslice
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I didn't actually say he went to a church, I said a church or whatever it was, which I now realze was a synagogue, he also quoted from the Torah or what the Christians call the old testament, this is conmen knowledge.
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Did Jesus ever read NT Bible or went to a Church in person?
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I think the intimation is that Xy is wrong, because it doesn't conform to a preconceived set of standards that are being foisted upon it, which it was never designed to work within.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
"Church", as used in this context, is from the Greek word "ekklisía", which translates into English as "an assembly".
Therefore, did Jesus go to "church"? Technically yes, by going to the Temple, to at least one synagogue, and then starting his own "assembly".
Therefore, did Jesus go to "church"? Technically yes, by going to the Temple, to at least one synagogue, and then starting his own "assembly".
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Jesus did not hold any service either as is done in Christianity these days. Did he? At what location? Please
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RabbiO
הרב יונה בן זכריה
Is someone who hates Islam paying you to write the stuff you post?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I don't get you friend. Please elaborate.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Then one agrees that Jesus had got nothing to do with the present Christianity. Jesus was a Jew not a Christian, and he never invented Christianity, it is fault of Paul and the Church.
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
An "assembly" need not be a formal "service" per se, but if you get around to reading the gospels, notice how many times he talks to an "assembly" giving his teachings, which in reality is a type of "sermon".
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, Paul pulled off a fantastic miracle and got all of those followers, many of whom actually heard Jesus, to believe the opposite of what Jesus taught, right? And you must think that those people were unbelievably ignorant, right? And you were there to know what the actual truth is, right?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Yes he did. The Last Supper as outlined in several places in the bible is basically the same outline as today's Mass in RCC, EO, and Anglican traditions. The meal was a typical Roman symposium.
Zing.
matthew_/!/
Member
This is possibly the most misinformed and incorrect post I have seen on rf
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yes I agree with all that, we must of got ourselves mixed up somewhere, I agree, and I don't even believe that Jesus ever existed.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
He is the reason the NT was written....
He did not read it.
and yes He went to a Temple
He was found teaching the Pharisees..... first time around He spoke there
He was thrown out and the crowd tried to kill Him....second time He spoke there
and He drove everyone out with a scourge in hand....last time He spoke there
not really a Temple Guy.....so to speak
Thief
Rogue Theologian
happens to be truuuuuuuuee
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
It was a synagogue a Jewish temple, not a Church or a Christian Assembly.
And one should know what Jesus did there? The Judaism people still remember that event.
Like Moses he scolded the Judaism people. Right? Please
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Have you ever been to Synagogue? With the exception of language and some particulars of theological expression, the theological and liturgical framework is virtually indistinguishable from the Christian Mass.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
seems I was quoting (in paraphrase) the NT...
and it seems we agree?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Jesus did not change a bit of Moses' teaching, he just wanted to reform Judaism from the dirt/corruption of the Judaism clergy:
Jesus Cleanses the Temple Douay-Rheims Bible
(Mark 11:15-19; Luke 19:45-48; John 2:12-25)
12And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the chairs of them that sold doves:
13And he saith to them: It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.
14And there came to him the blind and the lame in the temple; and he healed them.
15And the chief priests and scribes, seeing the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying: Hosanna to the son of David; were moved with indignation.
16And said to him: Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus said to them: Yea, have you never read: Out of the mouth of infants and of sucklings thou hast perfected praise? 17And leaving them, he went out of the city into Bethania, and remained there.
http://biblehub.com/drb/matthew/21.htm
As did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to reform Islam from the wrong concepts of Muslim Clergy.
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