michel said:
Please, don't use answersinGenesis; one of our members here started a thread in which she tore down the fabric of that site as being obtusely misinformed. As a fellow Christian, I admire and understand your need to believe in ID and Creation, but, frankli, I don't see how you can ignore science.
Ive read the thread that you are refering to, your claims that it 'tore down the fabric of that site as being obtusely misinformed' are absurd. Maybe i should just say, "please dont use talkorigins because in my opinion it is obtusely misinformed"
For the most part when ever i post anything from that site the actual content i post dosnt get refuted, instead just whingy complaints about the site in genral.
Your claim that i ignor science is just a strawman, you dont seem to understand that i really enjoy science, have a keen interest in it and i dont belive that objective science argues against ID and more specifically Biblically Creation. Are you saying that if a scientist after studying in somthing in his chosen field declares that it points most logically to a designer that he is being unscientific?
You claim to be a Christian, do you belive romans 1:20?
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualitieshis eternal power and divine naturehave been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
That verse explicitly states that its clear to see God existance from what he has made, do you disagree?
Jesus himself quoted from the book of Genesis, on the day when you bend you knee befor him will you wish you took it a little more seriously?
"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' Matthew 19:4
Instead you belive the layers were laid down slowly throughout millions of years of death and suffering even befor mankind existed, all of which flies in the face of what the bible teaches (and not just in genesis)- global flood (which caused the layers and fossils), death after sin. What do you say to someone who asks why there is death and suffereing? "God likes it like that? didnt you know he made everything with evolution" That does not describe Jesus Christ, the God who instanly made the blind see, turned water into wine, cured leprosy.
michel said:
I manage to remain a Christian without needing to believe genesis to the letter.
do you?
While i dont suggest that those who dont belive in 'the flood' etc are therefore not christian, i do wonder at how much you can disregard from the bible and still remain consistant.
I mean if you dont belive in the fall which introduced death and suffering and instead believe that it had been around millions of years befor mankind its not a nice way for God to create what he claimed was 'very good' especially when its the bible which claims death is the enemy. Paul said in Romans 5 "Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses"
What piece of 'evidence' is it that has you so convinced that Genesis isnt true? Jesus belived it.