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Dinosaurs or God? Which is more real?

Which one?


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Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I'm watching The Land Before Time, parts 1-7 or so, on account of missing my cat, and needing something mindless. And yes, I can definitely tell you that it is cute and entertaining. I can also tell you that the series is probably not good food for impressionable young minds, since along with dinosaurs, along with talking/singing dinosaurs, along with in at least one episode dinosaurs coexisting with simple mammals like squirrels, the message of the story is the same trite multiculturalism that is so sickening 2010 or so onward. "We can all live together in harmony" even though some of the group are legit meat eaters, and the story ends before adulthood for a good reason. Their sharptooth buddy Chomper would quickly find bugs aren't enough, and eat all of his "friends."

But it got me thinking, just how real are these dinosaurs?

Well, the Archaeopteryx turned out to be a hoax, but we can trust our other fossils right? Well...

When did dinosaurs live?

Dinosaurs lived about about 245 to 66 million years ago.

The thing is, these fossils are made of bones, but the oldest of these are only 2.8 million years old, not 66 million.

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/skeleton-mystery-dont-bones-decay-decompose.html

The problem with these mineralized bones is that they are no different from stones that have been sculpted into the shape of skulls or teeth or whatever else. The other problem is that even fossils eventually get ground to dust meaning that tens or hundreds of millions of year pass and there is not even bone-shaped stones remain.

So then, if there aren't real fossils, what exactly is this?

dino1-438722.jpg


In simplest terms, a moneymaking scheme. After all, these "bones" which are at best only able to be dated with carbon dating up to 95000 years (not even 1 million), after which it is impossible to find either intact genetic material or a sufficient about of carbon. So they're paying for plastic casting, and bits of rock, or strung together bones of more recent animals cobbled together through sketchy techniques.

dinoskel.jpg


So which are more real? I mean, we have at least anecdotal accounts of miracles and stuff, but we can't see God typically. But we have "fossils" of dinosaurs, which are possibly fake.

Also, everyone here must do a Land Before Time marathon. Yup yup yup.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I'm watching The Land Before Time, parts 1-7 or so, on account of missing my cat, and needing something mindless. And yes, I can definitely tell you that it is cute and entertaining. I can also tell you that the series is probably not good food for impressionable young minds, since along with dinosaurs, along with talking/singing dinosaurs, along with in at least one episode dinosaurs coexisting with simple mammals like squirrels, the message of the story is the same trite multiculturalism that is so sickening 2010 or so onward. "We can all live together in harmony" even though some of the group are legit meat eaters, and the story ends before adulthood for a good reason. Their sharptooth buddy Chomper would quickly find bugs aren't enough, and eat all of his "friends."

But it got me thinking, just how real are these dinosaurs?

Well, the Archaeopteryx turned out to be a hoax, but we can trust our other fossils right? Well...

When did dinosaurs live?

Dinosaurs lived about about 245 to 66 million years ago.

The thing is, these fossils are made of bones, but the oldest of these are only 2.8 million years old, not 66 million.

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/skeleton-mystery-dont-bones-decay-decompose.html

The problem with these mineralized bones is that they are no different from stones that have been sculpted into the shape of skulls or teeth or whatever else. The other problem is that even fossils eventually get ground to dust meaning that tens or hundreds of millions of year pass and there is not even bone-shaped stones remain.

So then, if there aren't real fossils, what exactly is this?

dino1-438722.jpg


In simplest terms, a moneymaking scheme. After all, these "bones" which are at best only able to be dated with carbon dating up to 95000 years (not even 1 million), after which it is impossible to find either intact genetic material or a sufficient about of carbon. So they're paying for plastic casting, and bits of rock, or strung together bones of more recent animals cobbled together through sketchy techniques.

dinoskel.jpg


So which are more real? I mean, we have at least anecdotal accounts of miracles and stuff, but we can't see God typically. But we have "fossils" of dinosaurs, which are possibly fake.

Also, everyone here must do a Land Before Time marathon. Yup yup yup.

My God, such rare ignorance.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I said both.

Dinosaurs are cool :)

Also, what do you mean archaeopteryx is a hoax?

Archaeopteryx - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopteryx
Most of the specimens of Archaeopteryx that have been discovered come from the Solnhofen limestone in Bavaria, southern Germany, which is a lagerstätte, a rare and remarkable geological formation known for its superbly detailed fossils laid down during the early Tithonian stage of the Jurassic period, approximately 150.8–148.5 million years ago. ...
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
I'm watching The Land Before Time, parts 1-7 or so, on account of missing my cat, and needing something mindless. And yes, I can definitely tell you that it is cute and entertaining. I can also tell you that the series is probably not good food for impressionable young minds, since along with dinosaurs, along with talking/singing dinosaurs, along with in at least one episode dinosaurs coexisting with simple mammals like squirrels,

Er...dinosaurs DID co-exist with 'simple mammals like squirrels" Not squirrels, of course, but 'simple mammals?" Sorry, but they did. It's why WE are here, because when the dinosaurs were wiped out in the Chixalub event, they weren't.

In fact, I BELIEVE that there may have been at least one species of slightly larger mammals...Not sure. can't remember which scientific documentary had it. (shrug) and no, it wasn't a religious one. It was one about which animals lived during which geological age....
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Both Dinosaurs and the Gods are real, it's not an either/or thing. We have scientific proof for Dinosaurs, and enough anecdotal evidence for the Gods for my views.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Dinosaur - Wikipedia

"Dinosaurs
Temporal range: Late TriassicPresent, 233.23 – 0 Mya (Range includes birds (Aves))"

In case people did not know biologists today tend to classify based upon cladistics. There is less confusions with the concept. The basic rule is that a population cannot evolve out of its heritage. Or to put it in biblical terms there is no "change of kind". Birds did not evolve "from dinosaurs" birds are dinosaurs.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm watching The Land Before Time, parts 1-7 or so, on account of missing my cat, and needing something mindless. And yes, I can definitely tell you that it is cute and entertaining. I can also tell you that the series is probably not good food for impressionable young minds, since along with dinosaurs, along with talking/singing dinosaurs, along with in at least one episode dinosaurs coexisting with simple mammals like squirrels, the message of the story is the same trite multiculturalism that is so sickening 2010 or so onward. "We can all live together in harmony" even though some of the group are legit meat eaters, and the story ends before adulthood for a good reason. Their sharptooth buddy Chomper would quickly find bugs aren't enough, and eat all of his "friends."

But it got me thinking, just how real are these dinosaurs?

Well, the Archaeopteryx turned out to be a hoax, but we can trust our other fossils right? Well...

When did dinosaurs live?

Dinosaurs lived about about 245 to 66 million years ago.

The thing is, these fossils are made of bones, but the oldest of these are only 2.8 million years old, not 66 million.

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/skeleton-mystery-dont-bones-decay-decompose.html

The problem with these mineralized bones is that they are no different from stones that have been sculpted into the shape of skulls or teeth or whatever else. The other problem is that even fossils eventually get ground to dust meaning that tens or hundreds of millions of year pass and there is not even bone-shaped stones remain.

So then, if there aren't real fossils, what exactly is this?

dino1-438722.jpg


In simplest terms, a moneymaking scheme. After all, these "bones" which are at best only able to be dated with carbon dating up to 95000 years (not even 1 million), after which it is impossible to find either intact genetic material or a sufficient about of carbon. So they're paying for plastic casting, and bits of rock, or strung together bones of more recent animals cobbled together through sketchy techniques.

dinoskel.jpg


So which are more real? I mean, we have at least anecdotal accounts of miracles and stuff, but we can't see God typically. But we have "fossils" of dinosaurs, which are possibly fake.

Also, everyone here must do a Land Before Time marathon. Yup yup yup.
Maybe watch Jurassic Park for more info?
Or Walking With Dinosaurs. The science is mostly outdated by today’s standard though. But they do explain in great detail just how dinosaurs and even how fossilisation works.
Also did you just call fossils a conspiracy theory?
Wow! I mean wow. They’re bones that fossilised. It’s not that complicated. I remember learning about fossils in like grade 3. Like what are talking about?

Although I do love the Land Before Time films.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
So which are more real? I mean, we have at least anecdotal accounts of miracles and stuff, but we can't see God typically. But we have "fossils" of dinosaurs, which are possibly fake.

I vote for both.

If I didn't know about this guy:

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Then i doubt i would have a glimpse into this verse:

“Let US create man in OUR image,
after OUR likeness.​

I have a hunch that the Devil will be found to be in the details of this deal.

I'm watching The Land Before Time, parts 1-7 or so, on account of missing my cat,

I'm sorry to hear about you cat.

I have a white cat inside.

And a big black Bearcat that's on patrol on the outside.

I'm going to make him tame someday.

I would rather have a cat, than a dinosaur.

Get a big Main Maine Coon and have a watch cat.

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God made the cat,
And saw that she was good.

:)
 
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