Discipline

[Thief]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

 

[Penumbra]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

Speaking philosophically rather than religiously, I'd say heaven is realizing that there is nothing left to restrain.

Restraint implies that one wants to do something, but reasonably decides it's a bad idea. It would typically be moral to restrain oneself in that matter.

But in doing so, one should probably try to analyze why they wanted to do it in the first place, if they view it as a bad idea. Why would their desire lead to something they consider bad? Is it that their idea of good and bad is skewed, or is it that they truly desire bad things?

Heaven, therefore, would be sorting out the issues and desiring only what one considers to be good. When there is no mismatch between desires and virtue, restraint becomes obsolete.

 

[asketikos]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

why would it take discipline to remain in heaven?

but i think you pose the question in the wrong way
yes it takes discipline
but discipline is different from restraint
and discipline is a good thing, even on this earthly life

if you discipline yourself to get up early every morning and learn French
by six months you will be speaking with French people
it was hard work, but it was worth it

same w/ Heaven.
this earth is a hard place to get through honestly
but its worth it.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I think the answer to this paradox friends, could be to look at it this way. What you call being in heaven and needing to be disciplined, is actually to be disciplined and live a good life here, and that is heaven. For if living in heaven requires discipline, and you can live in discipline here, what then is the difference?

 

[Thesavorofpan]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

My question does it matter? You have impulsive immature God running the show. One minute everyone in Heaven could be getting candy and the next minute they can be burning in hell. There's no way you can be sure he'll stick to his word.

 

[Evandr]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

Hmmm...I would say that if a person has the character to exorcise sufficient restraint to get to Heaven while in mortality (assuming of course that Heaven and Hell are black and white concepts, which they are not) then, seeing how Heaven is a glorious place completely lacking the evil influences of this world, staying there would not require restraint but only a lack of insanity. Not having the desire to do something is not the same as exercising restraint.

 

[LuisDantas]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

I don't know how common those two opposing views are, but I don't find either very religious at all. In part because they seem to rely on the idea of "another world".

 

[chinu]

It's common to believe some level of discipline is a part of faith and religion.
It's common to consider some reservation and restraint as moral.

If to refrain from bad behavior is required to get you out of this world...
and into the good graces of Heaven.... if it takes discipline to gain entry into heaven...
how much more is needed to stay there?

Or perhaps you would say....heaven has no restraint?
All bets and behavior are allowed?

Once entered the heaven, becomes one with "God", there is no Two-ism in heaven, So, there is nothing left behind to do with anything or anybody, Two are also considred as rush there.

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Chinu