I meant it is only an idea to us right now. Of course it's real and it's right here among us, I believe. We can't see it- although we can feel it and experience it in our own way.
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Discussion on the Parable of the Mustard Seed/Yeast
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I meant it is only an idea to us right now. Of course it's real and it's right here among us, I believe. We can't see it- although we can feel it and experience it in our own way.
Then birds rest on them. I don't think so.
Parables are proof Jesus knows what he is talking about.
These two parables of Jesus is not Jesus describing The Kingdom of God. The parables of Jesus serve to draw people in intellectually (there is your "idea" speculation). They keep our minds interested to keep seeking the Kingdom. These two are prophetic of what would be. They were already developing then.
If he was describing the actual Kingdom he would not have used the word "like". He would have used the verb "is".
If he was describing the actual Kingdom he would not have used the word "like". He would have used the verb "is".
That's a good point.
When we first discover God, our faith would be a mustard seed as we grow in our faith, it grows into a tree and hopefully keeps growing.
That's a good point.
Actually no. I might be wrong but a mustard seed does NOT grow into a tree. It is a bush. Google mustard plant images. It's a great big weed. But it tastes good. Hopefully the mustard plant does not keep growing
Acts 20:30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
Who are disciples? Believers in Christ. That is how the Kingdom of God becomes a mustard plant and leaven. Remember Christ pictures unleavened bread. Why would he say the Kingdom is like leavened bread? He wouldn't. It is the reason the Kingdom has not increased over the whole, isn't it?
Who are disciples? Believers in Christ. That is how the Kingdom of God becomes a mustard plant and leaven. Remember Christ pictures unleavened bread. Why would he say the Kingdom is like leavened bread? He wouldn't. It is the reason the Kingdom has not increased over the whole, isn't it?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
If you listen to any one parable and your method of thought changes....
you will then develop parables of your own.
And your words will prove a comfort to others.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Naw.
I'm just leaning to the parable.
There are other parables and sayings that have no comfort.
We both know it to be so.
It is probably not significant that a woman is mentioned in the parable because it is so common that women make the bread.
The amount of dough must be significant because no one can kneed 4 1/4 pecks of flour or 144 cups. Is three significant? Maybe. I wonder if it is it means three professions of faith developing.
They are:
1. Man in the place of God. This can be seen in the Catholic Church,
Jehovah's Witnesses and the LDS
2. The belief that salvation comes from acts of righteousness
3. The establishment of a Sovereign Jewish State with Yehoshua enthroned.
All three of these beliefs are developments originating in Ancient Israel. That is what the leaven represents. Leaven in those days was a lump of fermented dough. It is called sour dough. When it is mixed into new dough it ferments it into a new loaf. Before baking the loaf a piece is removed for later.
Like does not means it is. It means it is existing alongside the Kingdom of God. The cross reference would be the wheat and the weeds parable in which the weeds were allowed to grow along side the wheat.
The amount of dough must be significant because no one can kneed 4 1/4 pecks of flour or 144 cups. Is three significant? Maybe. I wonder if it is it means three professions of faith developing.
They are:
1. Man in the place of God. This can be seen in the Catholic Church,
Jehovah's Witnesses and the LDS
2. The belief that salvation comes from acts of righteousness
3. The establishment of a Sovereign Jewish State with Yehoshua enthroned.
All three of these beliefs are developments originating in Ancient Israel. That is what the leaven represents. Leaven in those days was a lump of fermented dough. It is called sour dough. When it is mixed into new dough it ferments it into a new loaf. Before baking the loaf a piece is removed for later.
Like does not means it is. It means it is existing alongside the Kingdom of God. The cross reference would be the wheat and the weeds parable in which the weeds were allowed to grow along side the wheat.
Does anyone else see that those three groups are separated but all believe in God's will on Earth?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I think the answer to this question would be in the Sower of Seeds.
The seed is cast is what is described as random.
Not even a plowed field is mentioned.
Blend the parables.
You can.
There is no restriction.
Seed is thought and feeling.
It grows as the surroundings allow it to grow.
Seed is truth and life
Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.
Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.
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Mustard is not a tree. And only the smallest birds can perch on it's branches.