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Do animals and humans end up in front of God when they die?

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
It's what your literature said.
Are you referring to the quote below? Man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections but that does not mean that men in this world will reach divine perfection. In other words, man will never be as perfect as God.

“With the establishment of the Most Great Peace and the spiritualization of the peoples of the world, man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections. This is one of the fruits of the Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh, promised by Him. The nobility of man and his spiritual development will lead him in the future to such a position that no individual could enjoy eating his food or resting at home while knowing that there was one person somewhere in the world without food or shelter. It is Bahá’u’lláh’s mission to create such a new race of men.”
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh v 3, p. 126)


New Race of Men
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Are you referring to the quote below? Man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections but that does not mean that men in this world will reach divine perfection. In other words, man will never be as perfect as God.

“With the establishment of the Most Great Peace and the spiritualization of the peoples of the world, man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections. This is one of the fruits of the Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh, promised by Him. The nobility of man and his spiritual development will lead him in the future to such a position that no individual could enjoy eating his food or resting at home while knowing that there was one person somewhere in the world without food or shelter. It is Bahá’u’lláh’s mission to create such a new race of men.”
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh v 3, p. 126)


New Race of Men
So your religion contradicts itself.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
I read in the case of Elisha in 2 Kings 2:11 that horses came down from the sky.And were on fire.Also it says all die.Animals and humans in Ecclesiastes 3:19.It also says all go to the same place in Ecclesiastes 3:20.And in Ecclesiastes 12:7 it says a human's spirit goes right to God at death.Also 2 Kings 6:15-17 sounds like the horses in 2 Kings 2:11.:)And it says in Ecclesiastes 3:21 who knows if the spirit of animal goes up or down.If you click on the bible passages it translates them for you.:)
God has to deal with humans all the time. That is why He needs emotional support dogs.
 

Bree

Active Member
Actually, that is only after they were long out of Eden. Before that they were only allowed plants. "Just as I gave you the green vegetation" refers back to that.
Then later only some flesh was allowed (clean and unclean) -and later not even the animals will eat each other.

So.... Vegetarian (if not vegan), then all flesh, then only some flesh, vegetarian (if not vegan) again later.

Allowing animal flesh for a time would have adverse health effects, psychological effects, etc. (and others) -but generally part of experiencing things not as they should be.

It is similar to the fact that God does not want us to war -yet says he "will plead with all flesh by the sword".
After we have reached the point of warfare destroying us completely, he will stop it just before it actually happens -but when it is absolutely clear that it would.
Then those humans who remain will repopulate during the first thousand years of Christ's reign.
They will not war (only one more attempt after the thousand years) -and they will not eat animal flesh. Animals will not eat humans -or each other.

After consistent rejection of direct instruction, God allowed managed (efficient as possible) experience to teach us.
Then he will make all things new.

Yes, its interesting isnt it that we are supposed to be herbivores only.

When mankind goes against Gods original plan, things go wrong. Thats why its so important that people realise that the only solution to ALL problems is to return to the creator and allow him to be earths ruler. We cannot maintain a course of independence from our maker...its literally killing us and the planet we live on.

Gods Kingdom is the only solution and it will soon take the action needed to save mankiind from itself.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
Yes, its interesting isnt it that we are supposed to be herbivores only.

When mankind goes against Gods original plan, things go wrong. Thats why its so important that people realise that the only solution to ALL problems is to return to the creator and allow him to be earths ruler. We cannot maintain a course of independence from our maker...its literally killing us and the planet we live on.

Gods Kingdom is the only solution and it will soon take the action needed to save mankiind from itself.
God will wipe away every tear and make all things new -we just need to patiently endure, keep the commandments, return good for evil, "visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep ....... unspotted from the world."
 
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