Do atheists put flowers on graves?

[Spiderman]

In other words, one agrees that no founder of a revealed religion did put flowers on the grave of a dead person.
Did any of the above gave any commandment/teachings to put flowers on the grave of a dead person, please?

Regards

If they did or didn't, it doesn't matter. They never said not to. At least no record of it.

Your posts are often incoherent. We don't know the vast majority of what Buddha, Jesus, Moses, or Muhammad did and said. Most of their words and actions werent recorded.

So, they might have put flowers on graves and talked to the dead. You don't know, so stop acting like you do, please!

Regards!

 

[paarsurrey]

If it makes you more happy to put flowers on a grave, then you will make others more happy, then the world gets a bit more happy. Whether or not a happy world is essential that is another issue of course. But at least I like happy people around me much more than the nagging types.

Especially ISIS people are known to have a strong belief that certain actions get them 70+ virgins in paradise
If God exists and is all about Love, then I belief more in the "flowers on grave" then "sentencing into grave"
That is my personal take on this issue. I can't prove of course what God thinks or like. But if I were God ...

Just another take on what you call "What benefit does accrue to the one who has dies...."

Regards

One means that if Atheism people put flowers on the grave of a person, it is just for their self-happiness, it does not give any happiness to dead person.
If they do it, it is far from being a meaningful act. Right,please?
What other non-meaningful acts like this one are they used to do to just increase their happiness, please?

Regards

 

[stvdv]

One means that if Atheism people put flowers on the grave of a person, it is just for their self-happiness, it does not give any happiness to dead person.
If they do it, it is far from being a meaningful act. Right,please?
What other non-meaningful acts like this one are they used to do to just increase their happiness, please?
Regards

Your non-meaningful act = belittling the acts of others. Right Please? Regards!

 

[Father Heathen]

probably just as (or more) rewarding than @Father Heathen and so many gamers find in video games.

Eh? I'm not exactly a big gamer, at least not since my early 20's.

 

[Spiderman]

Eh? I'm not exactly a big gamer, at least not since my early 20's.

I accept correction... some of what you have said, kinda gave me a different picture. No problemo!

 

[lewisnotmiller]

There are an ENORMOUS amount of homo-sapiens on this planet who would disagree!


....Or at least have additional reasons. You think the pyramids were primarily for the living? If so, might wanna google it.

You can think they're for the dead. That's your right. I'm not here to dissuade you of anything.
But if you want to ask and understand why an atheist honours the dead despite not believing in an afterlife, you may want to consider my answer more carefully.

As for Egypt, I'll happily talk about history all day, if that's the direction you wish to head.

 

[SomeRandom]

Experiencing grief is one thing.

Honoring the dead, paying respects, buying an expensive tombstone, visiting graves, leaving flowers, burning candles and incense, holding vigils, are practices i find very meaningful and rewarding to engage in...many do.

Were i an atheist, I'd see it as a waste of time and money, and not engage in such traditions. Hence, the reason for the question.

As stated in the OP, I know some atheists do this, just fail to understand the motive for it.

That's a cultural thing not a religious thing. So your question remains an odd one.

 

[stvdv]

You think the pyramids were primarily for the living? If so, might wanna google it.

Pyramids were 50/50. Dead Pharaoh + Live Queen [Some say; I was not there of course]
https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/204/photos/241000/620x/egypt-main-681046.jpg

 

[Ponder This]

If a person doesn't believe that the soul of the deceased loved one goes on living after death...why visit their grave, talk to them, or leave flowers?

Hmm. If you believe that people have souls that continue after death... then why visit their grave? Why would you believe that their souls are in their graves? Aren't souls supposed to move on when the body expires?

On the other hand, if you really believe that a person has no soul, then all that is left are the remains of his body sitting in the grave.

I've often thought that graves exist for the living to remember the deceased and not the deceased to remember the living.

 

[paarsurrey]

Hmm. If you believe that people have souls that continue after death... then why visit their grave? Why would you believe that their souls are in their graves? Aren't souls supposed to move on when the body expires?

On the other hand, if you really believe that a person has no soul, then all that is left are the remains of his body sitting in the grave.

I've often thought that graves exist for the living to remember the deceased and not the deceased to remember the living.

"graves exist for the living to remember the deceased and not the deceased to remember the living"

I agree with one, it is one aspect of the grave among others.
Regards

 

[EverChanging]

Obviously, some atheists do...but I don't exactly understand their reasoning behind it.

Putting flowers on, or decorating a grave, honoring the dead, paying respects to them, or even buying a nice costly tombstone for a deceased loved one, sounds more like something a person does who believes the soul of the deceased recipient of such honors or offerings, still lives on in some way or form, or benefits in some way from it...

If you are an atheist, have you ever put flowers on someone's grave, honored or paid respects to the dead, help purchase them a costly tombstone, or talked to them after their death? Were you an atheist at the time of this practice/tradition?

If you are a theist, do you ever decorate graves, leave flowers, honor, pay respects to, talk to the dead etc.?

I've spent all-nighters at cemeteries. They are one of my favorite places to visit! But in my atheist moments, didn't find any reason to do so...
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As a religious non-realist (and basically an atheist in terms of traditional theism, polytheism, etc.) I believe rituals for the dead are more for the living than anything else.

For better or worse I stand on the shoulders of all my ancestors human or non-human. They contributed to my world and what I am and made my existence possible. If we go far enough all my ancestors and everyone who will ever be exists in the singularity from which this universe emerged -- we are all one and interconnected, not in some New Age woo way, but in a very fundamental physical way.

The departed live on through us not just in our memories, but through interbeing. I like to say that the universe as it extends beyond us, including all the living beings in it and the energy of the departed, is our "greater part." When we revere the departed, when we pray for them, we are really revering and praying for ourselves. And we are communing with the departed in ourselves, through the imprint they have made on our brains and minds.

 

[Spiderman]

Hmm. If you believe that people have souls that continue after death... then why visit their grave? Why would you believe that their souls are in their graves? Aren't souls supposed to move on when the body expires?

On the other hand, if you really believe that a person has no soul, then all that is left are the remains of his body sitting in the grave.

I've often thought that graves exist for the living to remember the deceased and not the deceased to remember the living.

Bones can be a grace-filled relic...A dead corpse touched the bones of Elisha (in Scripture) and the corpse came back to life!

Besides, the soul might be aware of the person visiting the site of their remains....

Me personally, I love cemeteries and relics, but don't think spirits are confined to any of those locations...But I've heard of miracles that take place as a result of some pilgrimage to a tomb...so, who knows!?

 

[Spiderman]

As for Egypt, I'll happily talk about history all day, if that's the direction you wish to head.

Since it isn't straying from the OP topic, sure!

"Since the ka was conceived as the minute image of the body, it had to be fed, clothed and served after the death of the frame.

Lavatories were provided in some royal tombs for the convenience of the departed soul; and a funerary text expresses some anxiety lest the ka, for want of food, should feed upon its own excreta.
They made sure the pharaoh had a place in the afterlife . The pyramids where a symbol of re-birth into the afterlife they were shaped as they saw a women's womb to look like. Everything inside is what the pharaoh wanted to take with him to the next life..

To the Egyptians this pleased sun god, Ra, so once the pyramid was done being built the pharaoh would " make a connection" with Ra. Once the pharaoh died he/she would be put to rest in that same pyramid for his/her life

The Egyptians did so much for the kings and queens because they believed that in their afterlife they will become one of the great gods or goddesses. That's why in their tomb there is so much gold and riches. The shape of the pyramid shows that it comes to a point at the top which is where the pharaohs sit. The slaves are at the bottom. There is one king/queen that's why there isn't much room on top as bottom. There are more slaves so that's why they are on the bottom and there's more room. Everyone in between are either more or less people. That's what the pyramids mean to the Egyptians.

The pharaohs and their wives and relatives had pyramids built for them. They were buried with objects to be used in the afterlife.

They held many of the pharaohs belongings and other treasures inside the pyramid.

They were large tombs for Pharaohs that included everything they would need in the afterlife

Ancient Egyptians believed in an afterlife in which they could continue to enjoy their most valuable possessions.

the Egyptians believed the soul left the mummy,but returned to it for food offerings.Later, the Egyptians began to preserve the bodies artificially.

They wanted to be sure that their kings were traveling safely to the afterlife."
http://qa.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_purpose_of_the_pyramids_in_Ancient_Egyptian_Society

 

[robocop (actually)]

Obviously, some atheists do...but I don't exactly understand their reasoning behind it.

Putting flowers on, or decorating a grave, honoring the dead, paying respects to them, or even buying a nice costly tombstone for a deceased loved one, sounds more like something a person does who believes the soul of the deceased recipient of such honors or offerings, still lives on in some way or form, or benefits in some way from it...

If you are an atheist, have you ever put flowers on someone's grave, honored or paid respects to the dead, help purchase them a costly tombstone, or talked to them after their death? Were you an atheist at the time of this practice/tradition?

If you are a theist, do you ever decorate graves, leave flowers, honor, pay respects to, talk to the dead etc.?

I've spent all-nighters at cemeteries. They are one of my favorite places to visit! But in my atheist moments, didn't find any reason to do so...
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I am no longer atheist, but I don't see why they can't put flowers on graves as purely a symbolic expression of love.

 

[Willamena]

Obviously, some atheists do...but I don't exactly understand their reasoning behind it.

Putting flowers on, or decorating a grave, honoring the dead, paying respects to them, or even buying a nice costly tombstone for a deceased loved one, sounds more like something a person does who believes the soul of the deceased recipient of such honors or offerings, still lives on in some way or form, or benefits in some way from it...

They do live on, in our memories.

 

[paarsurrey]

I am no longer atheist, but I don't see why they can't put flowers on graves as purely a symbolic expression of love.

Why did one leave Atheism, please?
No need to answer this little question, if one does not want to disclose it, please.

Regards

 

[`mud]

My daughter died a few years ago, her husband had her cremated and put her ashes in a crypt. She wanted her ashes scattered in the springs of Silver Springs with the manatees. We go to the crypt twice or three times a year for remembrance with a sunflower or two, her favorite. I wish that she was with us but the memory has to pass for now. Somewhere in the future, I can only wish, she might make it there. That's where I want to go if I'm lucky and my kids make the trip.
Else, in the Gulf or under my big oak. Their choice.
No flowers needed, just save the memories.

 

[paarsurrey]

My daughter died a few years ago, her husband had her cremated and put her ashes in a crypt. She wanted her ashes scattered in the springs of Silver Springs with the manatees. We go to the crypt twice or three times a year for remembrance with a sunflower or two, her favorite. I wish that she was with us but the memory has to pass for now. Somewhere in the future, I can only wish, she might make it there. That's where I want to go if I'm lucky and my kids make the trip.
Else, in the Gulf or under my big oak. Their choice.
No flowers needed, just save the memories.

That is it.
Regards

 

[`mud]

But.....I do have a fondness for orchids.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Why did one leave Atheism, please?
No need to answer this little question, if one does not want to disclose it, please.

Regards

Simple really.
I cannot deny some gematria patterns of the Torah.
I cannot deny wordprint analysis in the Book of Mormon.
I do deny the Raelian work.

That would lead to being Mormon.
I was able to make one minor tweak to my philosophies to fit in with Mormonism that would include God when I hadn't before and this allows me to go back to Mormonism. I still don't believe in choice but that is controversial. However my God-allowing tweak seems to be better than it was before.