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Do Christians Secretly Believe Jesus Walks Among Us?

InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
Jimmy said:
How do you know? Do you speak for all Christians?
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Seems to me you are attempting to speak for all Christians.
The reality is that Christians, those who have trusted Jesus Christ as their Savior through the centuries, have a history of common, foundational beliefs as laid out in the biblical scriptures. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a prominent foundational belief of the Christian faith.



Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. John 11:25


Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19
 
Sgt. Pepper

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Eddi said:
And you have stated that the world lives and dies with you, over and over

God In The Flesh

In my view it’s a fancy way of saying one is connected to God in a way others aren’t. It does not mean one is God. In my opinion and personally speaking, even during my death I won’t take on the personification of God, but he will interact with me in a different way than he will with others.
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Jimmy said:
Correct. These aren’t beliefs.
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Incorrect. Those are beliefs and to state them as if they are a definitive matter of fact may very well run afoul of Rule 8.
 
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IamYourYahaweh

Member
InChrist said:
Seems to me you are attempting to speak for all Christians.
The reality is that Christians, those who have trusted Jesus Christ as their Savior through the centuries, have a history of common, foundational beliefs as laid out in the biblical scriptures. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a prominent foundational belief of the Christian faith.



Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. John 11:25


Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19
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Do you have anything not written in phony books?
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
InChrist said:
Seems to me you are attempting to speak for all Christians.
The reality is that Christians, those who have trusted Jesus Christ as their Savior through the centuries, have a history of common, foundational beliefs as laid out in the biblical scriptures. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a prominent foundational belief of the Christian faith.



Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. John 11:25


Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19
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No, I’m not speaking for all Christians. Actually the end of time will come before any of them admit what I think they secretly believe. Christianity’s too big. It’s a runaway freight train at this point. It’s cool. I like to see Christian’s that genuinely come to know our lord. I say that sincerely. You and I may differ on who we say that lord is but like I said, I still like to see it.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
Jimmy said:
Indeed. Creating it all with the help of God was a very special gift he received.
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Jesus did not have or need God’s help since He was fully God…

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or [f]powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Colossians 1:1-15

Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
John 10:17-18
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Sgt. Pepper said:
Incorrect. Those are beliefs and to state them as if they are a definitive matter of fact may very well run afoul of Rule 8.
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I never stated them as if they are definitive matter-of-fact. I said personally I prefer to know things instead of believe them.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
InChrist said:
Jesus did not have or need God’s help since He was fully God…

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or [f]powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Colossians 1:1-15

Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
John 10:17-18
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The way I see it Without God we are nothing, Jesus included.
 
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