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Do France Allow Freedom of Speech/Religion?

Flankerl

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Godobeyer

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Is there a Muslim on this forum who can explain how wrong this is?
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Tom

thanks for tag me

For my opinion there was temple in Jersulem for Jews . but i disagree that it's was in Alqsa Mosque .

The Jews did not discover any evidence that Temple is build under Alqsa .

I just wonder why they did the same under "The Church of Ressurection" since the Chrisitians came first !!!
 

Flankerl

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The Jews did not discover any evidence that Temple is build under Alqsa .

Yeah because so many archaeological excavations are allowed on the Temple Mount.

Oh wait the Waqf doesn't allow any.



For what it's worth(so nothing at all) the Wailing Wall is one of the outer Walls of the Plateau on which the Temple stood.
Though I of course realise that one needs the ability to understand three dimensional objects, so I am not holding my breath for some people to do just that.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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Yeah because so many archaeological excavations are allowed on the Temple Mount.

Oh wait the Waqf doesn't allow any.



For what it's worth(so nothing at all) the Wailing Wall is one of the outer Walls of the Plateau on which the Temple stood.
Though I of course realise that one needs the ability to understand three dimensional objects, so I am not holding my breath for some people to do just that.
That come of Jews claim .

Wailing Wall !!! ? i am curious why Jews did not get through this wall to find out what behind it !!!
did the Torah said Wailing Wall is plateau on Temple ? so Temple inside ,the jews crying outside his walls in past ,come on seriously are you serious ?
 
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Flankerl

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Wailing Wall !!! ? i am curious why Jews did not get through this wall to find out what behind it !!!

Earth and stones, the foundation of the entire plateau. Like I already wrote, some basic idea about three dimensional space really helps to understand basic three dimensional objects.


did the Torah said Wailing Wall is plateau on Temple ?

Oh god have you ever even seen the structure you are writing about?

Obviously the walls surrounding the plateau aren't on the plateau. Is that so difficult to understand?


so Temple inside

No. The Temple stood on the plateau. As difficult as it may be to understand, we didn't build the temple in the ground but rather on the ground.

Crazy, I know.


the jews crying outside his walls in past ,come on seriously are you serious ?

I don't even understand what you mean by it.
 

NulliuSINverba

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According to French constitution it declares France a secular state and proclaims the state’s respect for all beliefs, and guarantees the equality of all citizens regardless of religion.

Can you substantiate that assertion?

It also declares the free expression of thought and opinions which is one of the most precious rights of man

Do you really believe that? For instance, would you describe my right to blaspheme freely against The Prophet of Islam as "precious?" Would you support my right to merely hold a less-than-favorable opinion of him?

thus every citizen may freely speak, write, and print, subject to accountability for abuse of this freedom in the cases determined by law.

And there's the catch, apparently. Read that last bit again:

"subject to accountability for abuse of this freedom in the cases determined by law"

Freedoms can be abused. That's fairly evident in the United States, where we see gun-related freedoms abused all the time. That's where the "accountability" part comes in.

The question is does its citizens have freedom or is the constitution just a hogwash?

Even in a country (such as the United States) where one is totally free to (for example) deny the World War II-era Nazi holocaust, one does not have 100% freedom of speech. For example:

"In the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are several common law exceptions including obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, fraud, speech covered by copyright, and speech integral to criminal conduct; this is not to say that it is illegal, but just that the government may make it illegal. There are federal criminal law statutory prohibitions covering all the common law exceptions other than defamation, of which there is civil law liability, as well as terrorist threats, making false statements in "matters within the jurisdiction" of the federal government, spreading false and misleading information (which has been used to punish hoaxes on 4chan), speech related to information decreed to be related to national security such as military and classified information, false advertising, perjury, privileged communications, trade secrets, copyright, and patents. There also exist so-called "gag orders" which prevent the recipient of certain court orders (such as those concerning national security letters, stored communications subpoenas, pen registers and trap and trace devices) from revealing them. Most states and localities have many identical restrictions, as well as harassment, and time, place and manner restrictions. In addition, in California it is a crime to post a public official's address or telephone number on the Internet." ~ from wikipedia

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Freedom does not absolve one from responsibility and/or accountability.
 
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