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Do Gods Die?

Brian2

Brian2

Veteran Member
Suave said:
Please note the discovery of error correcting codes within the equations of symmetry is a rigorously proven theorem.

Reference: https://www.quora.com/Is-theoretica...mmunity-and-has-it-been-corroborated-by-other

Is theoretical physicist James Gates’ intriguing discovery of error-correcting codes within the equations of supersymmetry accepted within the theoretical physicist community, and has it been corroborated by other physicists?

Tristan Hubsch
, PhD Physics, University of Maryland, College Park (1987)
Answered 3 years ago · Author has 1.4K answers and 1M answer views

A.: The discovery is a rigorously proven theorem.

To be precise, the (error-detecting and error-correcting binary doubly-even linear block) codes were discovered/identified within the classification of worldline off-shell supermultiplets without central charge [On Graph-Theoretic Identifications of Adinkras, Supersymmetry Representations and Superfields, by C.F. Doran, M.G. Faux, S.J. Gates, Jr., T. Hübsch, K.M. Iga and G.D. Landweber: Int. J. Mod. Phys. A22 (2007) 869-930, arXiv:math-ph/0512016]. It was then proven that these (minimal) supermultiplets in turn encode the continuum of all possible worldline supermultiplets [On General Off-Shell Representations of Worldline (1D) Supersymmetry, by C.F. Doran, T. Hübsch, K.M. Iga and G.D. Landweber: Symmetry 6 no. 1, (2014) 67–88, arXiv:1310.3258]. See also my answer to “James Gates claims that he found code in string theory. Does that imply that we live in a simulation?”

If string theory proves to be a valid explanation for the fundamental constituents of the universe being one-dimensional “strings” rather than point-like particles, then the computer code found within string theory could be a real indication of our simulated universe being controlled by God!
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Codes in nature point to intelligence of design.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
In the Christian faith God is immortal.
However there is no reason to believe that he is alive in the biological sense that we are.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
SalixIncendium said:
In your religion or spiritual tradition, do gods die?

If so, how and why? What it the typical lifespan of a god in your belief?
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G-D is neither created and or born nor He dies.
SalixIncendium said:
In your religion or spiritual tradition, do gods die?

If so, how and why? What it the typical lifespan of a god in your belief?
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G-d is neither created and or born nor He dies:

25:59
وَتَوَکَّلۡ عَلَی الۡحَیِّ الَّذِیۡ لَا یَمُوۡتُ وَسَبِّحۡ بِحَمۡدِہٖ ؕ وَکَفٰی بِہٖ بِذُنُوۡبِ عِبَادِہٖ خَبِیۡرَا ﴿ۚۛۙ۵۹﴾
English - Sher Ali
And trust thou in the Living One, Who dies not, and glorify Him with His praise. And sufficient is He as the Knower of the sins of His servants,
25:60
ۣالَّذِیۡ خَلَقَ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضَ وَمَا بَیۡنَہُمَا فِیۡ سِتَّۃِ اَیَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسۡتَوٰی عَلَی الۡعَرۡشِ ۚۛ اَلرَّحۡمٰنُ فَسۡـَٔلۡ بِہٖ خَبِیۡرًا ﴿۶۰﴾
English - Sher Ali
He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne. The Gracious God! Ask thou then concerning Him one who knows.
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search

So Quran clearly mentions that G-d is Living One and does not die. Right?

Regards
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Brian2 said:
The one true God does not die but all others die in various ways because they are not immortal.
I have no data on the typical life span of gods.
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I believe the one true God appeared to die but the reality is that the Spirit of God left the body and then the body died.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
SalixIncendium said: ↑

paarsurrey said:
G-D is neither created and or born nor He dies.

G-d is neither created and or born nor He dies:

25:59
وَتَوَکَّلۡ عَلَی الۡحَیِّ الَّذِیۡ لَا یَمُوۡتُ وَسَبِّحۡ بِحَمۡدِہٖ ؕ وَکَفٰی بِہٖ بِذُنُوۡبِ عِبَادِہٖ خَبِیۡرَا ﴿ۚۛۙ۵۹﴾
English - Sher Ali
And trust thou in the Living One, Who dies not, and glorify Him with His praise. And sufficient is He as the Knower of the sins of His servants,
25:60
ۣالَّذِیۡ خَلَقَ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضَ وَمَا بَیۡنَہُمَا فِیۡ سِتَّۃِ اَیَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسۡتَوٰی عَلَی الۡعَرۡشِ ۚۛ اَلرَّحۡمٰنُ فَسۡـَٔلۡ بِہٖ خَبِیۡرًا ﴿۶۰﴾
English - Sher Ali
He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne. The Gracious God! Ask thou then concerning Him one who knows.
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search

So Quran clearly mentions that G-d is Living One and does not die. Right?

Regards
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Another attribute of G-d is mentioned in the above Quran verse 25:60 namely "خَبِیۡرًا" translation "one who knows" .Only the Living G-d would know what is happening, one who dies cannot know what has happened after his death. It rightly infers from the attribute of Living G-d. Right, please?
This attribute is separately mentioned in many a verse of Quran , some of these are given here:

(4:35:22) khabīran All-Aware إِنْ يُرِيدَا إِصْلَاحًا يُوَفِّقِ اللَّهُ بَيْنَهُمَا إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا خَبِيرًا
(6:18:7) l-khabīru the All-Aware وَهُوَ الْقَاهِرُ فَوْقَ عِبَادِهِ وَهُوَ الْحَكِيمُ الْخَبِيرُ
(6:73:24) l-khabīru the All-Aware عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ وَهُوَ الْحَكِيمُ الْخَبِيرُ
(6:103:9) l-khabīru the All-Aware لَا تُدْرِكُهُ الْأَبْصَارُ وَهُوَ يُدْرِكُ الْأَبْصَارَ وَهُوَ اللَّطِيفُ الْخَبِيرُ

Right?

Regards
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Do Gods Die?

Only false gods die and rise/resurrect from the dead, Wikipedia tells me:

"A dying-and-rising, death-rebirth, or resurrection deity is a religious motif in which a god or goddess dies and is resurrected.[1][2][3][4] Examples of gods who die and later return to life are most often cited from the religions of the ancient Near East, and traditions influenced by them include Biblical and Greco-Roman mythology and by extension Christianity. The concept of a dying-and-rising god was first proposed in comparative mythology by James Frazer's seminal The Golden Bough (1890). Frazer associated the motif with fertility rites surrounding the yearly cycle of vegetation. Frazer cited the examples of Osiris, Tammuz, Adonis and Attis, Dionysus and Jesus.[5]"

Dying-and-rising deity - Wikipedia
160px-Frederic_Leighton_-_The_Return_of_Persephone_%281891%29.jpg

The Return of Persephone by Frederic Leighton (1891).
Description A dying-and-rising god is born, suffers a death-like experience, and is subsequently reborn.
Proponents James Frazer, Carl Jung, Tryggve Mettinger
Subject Mythology
Religion

Well Encyclopedia Britannica is considered more authentic, people say . But I did not check it and leave it for the friends here to look into it. Right?

Regards
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Do Gods Die?

Only false gods die and rise/resurrect from the dead, Wikipedia tells me:

"A dying-and-rising, death-rebirth, or resurrection deity is a religious motif in which a god or goddess dies and is resurrected.[1][2][3][4] Examples of gods who die and later return to life are most often cited from the religions of the ancient Near East, and traditions influenced by them include Biblical and Greco-Roman mythology and by extension Christianity. The concept of a dying-and-rising god was first proposed in comparative mythology by James Frazer's seminal The Golden Bough (1890). Frazer associated the motif with fertility rites surrounding the yearly cycle of vegetation. Frazer cited the examples of Osiris, Tammuz, Adonis and Attis, Dionysus and Jesus.[5]"

Dying-and-rising deity - Wikipedia
160px-Frederic_Leighton_-_The_Return_of_Persephone_%281891%29.jpg

The Return of Persephone by Frederic Leighton (1891).
Description A dying-and-rising god is born, suffers a death-like experience, and is subsequently reborn.
Proponents James Frazer, Carl Jung, Tryggve Mettinger
Subject Mythology
Religion

Well Encyclopedia Britannica is considered more authentic, people say . But I did not check it and leave it for the friends here to look into it. Right?
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In net-shell, we can say with confidence that the Truthful G-d , does not die. Right?
The correct attributes are inter-connected, so we cannot deny one attribute as with this the whole attributes of G-d get affected and become unreasonable, please. Agree?

Regards
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
SalixIncendium said: ↑


Another attribute of G-d is mentioned in the above Quran verse 25:60 namely "خَبِیۡرًا" translation "one who knows" .Only the Living G-d would know what is happening, one who dies cannot know what has happened after his death. It rightly infers from the attribute of Living G-d. Right, please?
This attribute is separately mentioned in many a verse of Quran , some of these are given here:

(4:35:22) khabīran All-Aware إِنْ يُرِيدَا إِصْلَاحًا يُوَفِّقِ اللَّهُ بَيْنَهُمَا إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا خَبِيرًا
(6:18:7) l-khabīru the All-Aware وَهُوَ الْقَاهِرُ فَوْقَ عِبَادِهِ وَهُوَ الْحَكِيمُ الْخَبِيرُ
(6:73:24) l-khabīru the All-Aware عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ وَهُوَ الْحَكِيمُ الْخَبِيرُ
(6:103:9) l-khabīru the All-Aware لَا تُدْرِكُهُ الْأَبْصَارُ وَهُوَ يُدْرِكُ الْأَبْصَارَ وَهُوَ اللَّطِيفُ الْخَبِيرُ
Right?
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#50"In net-shell, we can say with confidence that the Truthful G-d , does not die. The correct attributes of G-d are inter-connected"

G-d is "All living" or "always living" and or G-d is "Immortal", this attribute is interconnected with "G-d does not die":
25:59
وَتَوَکَّلۡ عَلَی الۡحَیِّ الَّذِیۡ لَا یَمُوۡتُ وَسَبِّحۡ بِحَمۡدِہٖ ؕ وَکَفٰی بِہٖ بِذُنُوۡبِ عِبَادِہٖ خَبِیۡرَا ﴿ۚۛۙ۵۹﴾
English - Sher Ali
And trust thou in the Living One, Who dies not, and glorify Him with His praise. And sufficient is He as the Knower of the sins of His servants,
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
So if some god dies, it is a clear proof/evidence that it is not a god as it cannot be Immortal, please. Right?

Regards
 
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