Do Pictures of Nude People Lead to Immoral Behavior?

[a_student]

I'll leave it to the theists on the board as to whether or not they choose to debate the point of their religious beliefs speak to the morality or immorality of masturbation.

That said, speaking as an agnostic, your point is taken. I have absolutely no qualms about it - and am completely unfettered by any conept of "sin" as such.

Yea I'm coming from a religious standpoint. It's like when Christians tell people that if they don't except Christ they're going to burn in hell. Well that's what a Christian believes, but to a non-Christian, that threat isn't so intimidating. So from a religious standpoint I believe it is immoral (as evidenced by previously cited scriptures). From a non-religious standpoint I believe that like everything else, "too much of anything is a trap."

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Yea I'm coming from a religious standpoint. It's like when Christians tell people that if they don't except Christ they're going to burn in hell. Well that's what a Christian believes, but to a non-Christian, that threat isn't so intimidating. So from a religious standpoint I believe it is immoral (as evidenced by previously cited scriptures). From a non-religious standpoint I believe that like everything else, "too much of anything is a trap."

I'm not being facetious here - but do you honestly believe that if you engage in masturbation, you are going to burn in hell - literally?

 

[DallasApple]

Wow. You make me feel like my mother and I have a terrible relationship:sad4: A couple things though. Were you really aware of your sons' whereabouts 24/7? Secondly if your son has to beat his gf off with a stick I have news for you: that is a sign of a masturbation addict. Not saying he is but that is a sign. Guys who are so "caught up in themselves" that they have no need or desire for a woman. In those cases the man gives himself all the pleasure while denying the woman. The act is selfish by nature.

No he just has a lower drive ...He's taken a back by a woman with such a strong drive..His words "she has a man drive"...

Love

Dallas

 

[a_student]

I'm not being facetious here - but do you honestly believe that if you engage in masturbation, you are going to burn in hell - literally?

I never said that. I said it is a vice. I believe masturbation, coupled with many, many other vices will land a person in hell. However, I also believe G-d is forgiving.

 

[Riverwolf]

Too much always starts out as a little.

Don't I know it. That's why it's important to make an effort to recognize the potential for addiction so that it can be more easily resisted, especially if it's a directly dangerous addiction such as smoking or drinking alcohol. Masturbation is only dangerous in terms of dehydration, which can be fixed with a few glasses of water, unless there's another physical problem with it.

 

[DallasApple]

Oh and yes pretty much aware of my sons wherabouts 24/7..He was either at school..at home with us ...or with us somewhere..On ocasion he went to friends houses..But didnt let him start drivign until he was 17 and 1/2(and that was with a permit..we were in the car with him) ..and he didnt get his permenent liscence untill he was 18...

And he is here right now as a matter of fact....(Im talking about the 18 year old)..

My sons are not perfect ..Im not trying to say that at all..In fact my oldest(he's 25) got in a lot of trouble..But it wasnt from obsessivie masturbating I promise you..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Guys who are so "caught up in themselves" that they have no need or desire for a woman. In those cases the man gives himself all the pleasure while denying the woman. The act is selfish by nature.

This is where I will agree with you..If you are denying your spouse or lover sex..and its because you are "taking care of yourself" that is selifish/sinful..(and Im talkign about consistantly denying them sex..not occasioanlly)...

Love

Dallas

 

[a_student]

Don't I know it. That's why it's important to make an effort to recognize the potential for addiction so that it can be more easily resisted, especially if it's a directly dangerous addiction such as smoking or drinking alcohol. Masturbation is only dangerous in terms of dehydration, which can be fixed with a few glasses of water, unless there's another physical problem with it.

There is more to masturbation than meets the eye. Masturbation affects us physically, emotionally, and spiritually. As previously mentioned, the "high" from masturbation addiction comes from the flood of chemicals that are released into the brain during orgasm. As the brain begins to crave this "high," the addict trains himself to climax quicker and more often. In addition, the addict becomes accustomed to the sensations of masturbation, sometimes to the point that "normal" sexual activity is not satisfying. Woody Allen had a line in one of his movies: "I'm good at sex. I practice a lot when I'm alone." While that may come across as a funny line, it underscores the physical problem with masturbation. By practicing masturbation, the addict becomes accomplished at short, intense activity with a quick climax. Unfortunately, this isn't very satisfying to a spouse in a sexual relationship.

Masturbation, by its very nature, is a selfish act. Since you are having sex with yourself, there is no need to please anyone else. The emotional nature tends to follow the same course. As sex becomes little more than another way to meet your own physical needs, the tendency is to ignore the emotional needs of your spouse as well. She becomes nothing more than an object for your sexual satisfaction and is not needed physically or emotionally.

It only seems harmless because the ramifications can not be seen immediately.

 

[DallasApple]

If you came home one day and found your husband masturbating to a picture of your best friend, how would you feel? Furthermore if he refused you because he was already spent from masturbating?

Whoa!! I just caught this..Im tlakign about "masturbation" period..I would be highly hurt..upset and ****** off if my husband was doing this..I dont want him looking at other women and fantasizign about havign sex with them..Period..Im selfish and stingy...of course it could be because many years ago he cheated on me with a stripper..and again later with a bar tender..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

There is more to masturbation than meets the eye. Masturbation affects us physically, emotionally, and spiritually. As previously mentioned, the "high" from masturbation addiction comes from the flood of chemicals that are released into the brain during orgasm. As the brain begins to crave this "high," the addict trains himself to climax quicker and more often. In addition, the addict becomes accustomed to the sensations of masturbation, sometimes to the point that "normal" sexual activity is not satisfying. Woody Allen had a line in one of his movies: "I'm good at sex. I practice a lot when I'm alone." While that may come across as a funny line, it underscores the physical problem with masturbation. By practicing masturbation, the addict becomes accomplished at short, intense activity with a quick climax. Unfortunately, this isn't very satisfying to a spouse in a sexual relationship.

Masturbation, by its very nature, is a selfish act. Since you are having sex with yourself, there is no need to please anyone else. The emotional nature tends to follow the same course. As sex becomes little more than another way to meet your own physical needs, the tendency is to ignore the emotional needs of your spouse as well. She becomes nothing more than an object for your sexual satisfaction and is not needed physically or emotionally.

It only seems harmless because the ramifications can not be seen immediately.

Look my husband was "obsessed" with sex..Even with me..I was hounded and tortured over it..I know what you are talking about..

But there is IMHO nothing inherently wrong with the act of MB...Selfish?..So is eating..Why do we eat?..Because we are hungry and it taste good.We arent sharing when we do it..Its a purely selfish act...Its not just because it has vitamins and minerals and fiber and we know we will die without it..We crave it ..and its natural and good for you to respond to the need..IN MODERATION!

Love

Dallas

 

[Riverwolf]

There is more to masturbation than meets the eye. Masturbation affects us physically, emotionally, and spiritually. As previously mentioned, the "high" from masturbation addiction comes from the flood of chemicals that are released into the brain during orgasm. As the brain begins to crave this "high," the addict trains himself to climax quicker and more often. In addition, the addict becomes accustomed to the sensations of masturbation, sometimes to the point that "normal" sexual activity is not satisfying. Woody Allen had a line in one of his movies: "I'm good at sex. I practice a lot when I'm alone." While that may come across as a funny line, it underscores the physical problem with masturbation. By practicing masturbation, the addict becomes accomplished at short, intense activity with a quick climax. Unfortunately, this isn't very satisfying to a spouse in a sexual relationship.

Masturbation, by its very nature, is a selfish act. Since you are having sex with yourself, there is no need to please anyone else. The emotional nature tends to follow the same course. As sex becomes little more than another way to meet your own physical needs, the tendency is to ignore the emotional needs of your spouse as well. She becomes nothing more than an object for your sexual satisfaction and is not needed physically or emotionally.

It only seems harmless because the ramifications can not be seen immediately.

I see where you're coming from. And I never connected quick sex with masturbation. But I don't view my girlfriend as a sex object at all. Quite the contrary. In my opinion, sex is just a small piece of a relationship, and a "good" sexual performance has nothing to do with anything. It's about being intimate with each other; being there together, who cares if orgasm is even achieved?

And I'd like to point out something which I just remembered, porn can serve another purpose besides a masturbation help. It can also be viewed as erotic comedy, especially certain hentai. I know for a fact that among otaku such as myself(otaku are people who love anime; "otaku" literally means "nerd"), there are just as many women who enjoy porn as men. Heterosexual women.

 

[Riverwolf]

Look my husband was "obsessed" with sex..Even with me..I was hounded and tortured over it..I know what you are talking about..

But there is IMHO nothing inherently wrong with the act of MB...Selfish?..So is eating..Why do we eat?..Because we are hungry and it taste good.We arent sharing when we do it..Its a purely selfish act...Its not just because it has vitamins and minerals and fiber and we know we will die without it..We crave it ..and its natural and good for you to respond to the need..IN MODERATION!

Love

Dallas

I'd give you frubals if I knew how.

 

[a_student]

I'd give you frubals if I knew how.

Yea how do you do that? Someone should give me some too. You may not agree with my position but I raised some pretty good points lol.

 

[DallasApple]

Yea how do you do that? Someone should give me some too. You may not agree with my position but I raised some pretty good points lol.

Your wish has been granted..Frubals to you..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

I'd give you frubals if I knew how.

Its the thought that counts right?

Love

Dallas

 

[Darkwater]

When I say "normal" I mean vaginal intercourse. When I man puts his penis inside a woman's vagina. Positions and all that are irrelevant.

Well first of all there is breathing,there is your bond to the soul of the woman,her higher self(some great intent spikes on this thread.)

It is immoral not to know the Vigyan Bhairav tantra,it could be argued?

A picture does illustrate this beautifully,don't you think>

The Vigyan Bhairav Tantra


http://www.thetengu.com/abrahadabra/vigyanbhairavtantra.html

 

[DallasApple]

Well first of all there is breathing,there is your bond to the soul of the woman,her higher self(some great intent spikes on this thread.)

It is immoral not to know the Vigyan Bhairav tantra,it could be argued?

A picture does illustrate this beautifully,don't you think>

The Vigyan Bhairav Tantra

OOH yeah..thats my kind of picture.. :drool: (I dont want to be with that guy but I want to do what that girl is doing :yes:...)...

Love

Dallas

 

[Darkwater]

Whatever gets Kundalini energy rising up your back in intertwining snakes of enrgy up to the base of the crown chakra to exit via the crown in a glorious light display,sweet Dallas.

Love & light,

DW

 

[Riverwolf]

Yea how do you do that? Someone should give me some too. You may not agree with my position but I raised some pretty good points lol.

Yes you have.

 

[DallasApple]

Whatever gets Kundalini energy rising up your back in intertwining snakes of enrgy up to the base of the crown chakra to exit via the crown in a glorious light display,sweet Dallas.

Love & light,

DW

HOT!! I feel like a vine..that wants to stretch and crawl when I see that picture..Not a snake..(but Im more into trees than snakes)...

Love

Dallas