Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?

[Saint Frankenstein]

Having worked in the funeral business for a number of years, I became somewhat familiar with the various funeral rites and practices associated with many religions. For example, some religions might require burial and forbid cremation of the body. Some religions might forbid any embalming or cosmetics often required for an open casket viewing.

Another example might be the Last Rites, which is also deemed a requirement at the time of death.

I guess the question I would have (which is open to anyone to answer from the point of view of their own religious beliefs), does any of this have any effect on the disposition of the soul? For example, if someone dies but doesn't get the Last Rites, do they go to hell (regardless of what kind of life they've lived)? If their religion forbids cremation, and yet, they end up cremated anyway, will that affect where their soul finally winds up?

In other words, if the funeral ritual is done incorrectly or some rules might have been violated, does that affect anything at all?

Yes, I do think it matters and that its important to respect the remains and graves of the dead. I do not understand people with flippant attitudes who say they don't care what happens to their bodies like it's some trash to be discarded. That's abhorrent to me.

 

[paarsurrey]

Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?​

(Jesus) Yeshua's funeral rites were not performed*, I don't find it in the Pauline-deviant NT Bible, it clearly shows that he did not die a cursed death on the Cross, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the the Pauline-Bible when funeral rites of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people) were performed, please, right?

1. * (Jesus) Yeshua was never given a bath (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible)
2. *Nobody was informed about when his funeral service is fixed to be performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).
3. *No last service was actually performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).

Right?

Regards

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Having worked in the funeral business for a number of years, I became somewhat familiar with the various funeral rites and practices associated with many religions. For example, some religions might require burial and forbid cremation of the body. Some religions might forbid any embalming or cosmetics often required for an open casket viewing.

Another example might be the Last Rites, which is also deemed a requirement at the time of death.

I guess the question I would have (which is open to anyone to answer from the point of view of their own religious beliefs), does any of this have any effect on the disposition of the soul? For example, if someone dies but doesn't get the Last Rites, do they go to hell (regardless of what kind of life they've lived)? If their religion forbids cremation, and yet, they end up cremated anyway, will that affect where their soul finally winds up?

In other words, if the funeral ritual is done incorrectly or some rules might have been violated, does that affect anything at all?

I posted a couple of funerals in another thread, but I’ll post them here, since these funeral rites were met with ridicule and contempt by the Phelpsians.

This is how we do funeral rites here in Iowa, after a violent confederate attack.

And I don’t care if it upsets the Phelpsians.

The lives of Iowans matter.



Full Coverage: Funeral of Officer Justin Martin

Complete Coverage: Funeral services for Sgt. Tony Beminio

 

[paarsurrey]

Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?​

(Jesus) Yeshua's funeral rites were not performed*, I don't find it in the Pauline-deviant NT Bible, it clearly shows that he did not die a cursed death on the Cross, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the the Pauline-Bible when funeral rites of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people) were performed, please, right?

1. * (Jesus) Yeshua was never given a bath (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible)
2. *Nobody was informed about when his funeral service is fixed to be performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).
3. *No last service was actually performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).

Well knowing that funeral rites were most important, friends, disciples and his near and dear one's made no effort for arrangements of these rites, they were sure that (Jesus) Yeshua could not and did not die on Cross/pole, please, right?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?​

(Jesus) Yeshua's funeral rites were not performed*, I don't find it in the Pauline-deviant NT Bible, it clearly shows that he did not die a cursed death on the Cross, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the the Pauline-Bible when funeral rites of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people) were performed, please, right?

1. * (Jesus) Yeshua was never given a bath (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible)
2. *Nobody was informed about when his funeral service is fixed to be performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).
3. *No last service was actually performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).

Well knowing that funeral rites were most important, friends, disciples and his near and dear one's made no effort for arrangements of these rites, they were sure that (Jesus) Yeshua could not and did not die on Cross/pole, please, right?
His near and dear one's did not arrange these rites even he spent 40 days till he travelled from Galilee to the East, where 10 lost tribes resided, right, please?

Regards

 

[Spice]

Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?​

(Jesus) Yeshua's funeral rites were not performed*, I don't find it in the Pauline-deviant NT Bible, it clearly shows that he did not die a cursed death on the Cross, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the the Pauline-Bible when funeral rites of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people) were performed, please, right?

1. * (Jesus) Yeshua was never given a bath (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible)
2. *Nobody was informed about when his funeral service is fixed to be performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).
3. *No last service was actually performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).

Well knowing that funeral rites were most important, friends, disciples and his near and dear one's made no effort for arrangements of these rites, they were sure that (Jesus) Yeshua could not and did not die on Cross/pole, please, right?
His near and dear one's did not arrange these rites even he spent 40 days till he travelled from Galilee to the East, where 10 lost tribes resided, right, please?

Regards

The Gospels state that there wasn't time for the funeral rites before sundown that began the Sabbath. That is why Mary, and depending on which Gospel you read, other women were going to prepare the body Saturday morning. You are correct in that funeral rites were never given for Jesus per the Gospels. I don't know about the Shemira. Perhaps because of the Sabbath placing him in the tomb was enough? Nor is there any mention of Shiva, at least not directly. Perhaps that's why the Apostles were found together Saturday when the women returned, per one Gospel? I'm not that familiar with the traditions.

 

[paarsurrey]

Do religious funeral rites imply any influence over the disposition of the soul?​

(Jesus) Yeshua's funeral rites were not performed*, I don't find it in the Pauline-deviant NT Bible, it clearly shows that he did not die a cursed death on the Cross, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the the Pauline-Bible when funeral rites of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people) were performed, please, right?

1. * (Jesus) Yeshua was never given a bath (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible)
2. *Nobody was informed about when his funeral service is fixed to be performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).
3. *No last service was actually performed (no mention of it in the Pauline deviant NT Bible).

Well knowing that funeral rites were most important, friends, disciples and his near and dear one's made no effort for arrangements of these rites, they were sure that (Jesus) Yeshua could not and did not die on Cross/pole, please, right?
His near and dear one's did not arrange these rites even he spent 40 days till he travelled from Galilee to the East, where 10 lost tribes resided, right, please?

The Gospels state that there wasn't time for the funeral rites before sundown that began the Sabbath. That is why Mary, and depending on which Gospel you read, other women were going to prepare the body Saturday morning. You are correct in that funeral rites were never given for Jesus per the Gospels. I don't know about the Shemira. Perhaps because of the Sabbath placing him in the tomb was enough? Nor is there any mention of Shiva, at least not directly. Perhaps that's why the Apostles were found together Saturday when the women returned, per one Gospel? I'm not that familiar with the traditions.

The truthful attributes of One G-d are:
2:256 "Allah — there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not; and He is the High, the Great." Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
Right?

Regards
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Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below:-
2:256
اَللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ھُوَ ۚ اَلۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ۬ۚ لَا تَاۡخُذُہٗ سِنَۃٌ وَّلَا نَوۡمٌ ؕ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ مَنۡ ذَا الَّذِیۡ یَشۡفَعُ عِنۡدَہٗۤ اِلَّا بِاِذۡنِہٖ ؕ یَعۡلَمُ مَا بَیۡنَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَمَا خَلۡفَہُمۡ ۚ وَلَا یُحِیۡطُوۡنَ بِشَیۡءٍ مِّنۡ عِلۡمِہٖۤ اِلَّا بِمَا شَآءَ ۚ وَسِعَ کُرۡسِیُّہُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضَ ۚ وَلَا یَـُٔوۡدُہٗ حِفۡظُہُمَا ۚ وَہُوَ الۡعَلِیُّ الۡعَظِیۡمُ ﴿۲۵۶