Several members expressed how they were reading what he was posting, and instead of responding with the sort of reinterpretation you gave here, he just doubled down, continued with the insulting rhetoric, and told the people who objected to it that they "just don't like what he has to say."I can't speak for windwalker, and I can understand how you read his post as pejorative, but I expect he was trying to be more descriptive than critical in that post, along the same lines as gsa's post a bit later on that page. That is, it's just to say that western atheist tends to be a response to the most common Abrahamic monotheistic theologies since those are the most prevalent.
He had plenty of opportunity to take a less insulting approach if that was what he intended. He didn't take it.
I don't.It seems to me that both "sides" in this debate feel that the other side is sometimes prone to broad-brush caricatures, and get irritated by that.
I don't think there's anything particularly inherent in any of the belief systems presented here that demands broad-brush caricatures of atheists; I was just responding to them as they came up in the thread.
I've tried to listen to people in these sorts of conversations, but it just gets frustrating when someone tells me that they believe in God, I ask them what they mean by "God", they give some incoherent reply, and then they get all upset as if their inability express themselves is my fault. It gets old.I have no doubt that atheists run into very shallow stereotypes all the time, speaking with religious people. I've witnessed plenty of it firsthand, and I'm sympathetic. It is possible that sometimes both theists and atheists are presented with caricatures of their views by others, whether intended maliciously or not. I think dialogue between religious worldviews and atheistic worldviews is important and necessary, not least because I think religion needs the criticism that it receives, if I also believe that theistic traditions have some element of wisdom to offer the modern secular world. I hope it's possible to talk about those topics in a productive way. I think there have probably been comments on both sides of the debate in this thread that serve to create more heat than light, or that seem to exhibit more of the baggage of the poster's past experiences than a direct reaction to the thread, but I also think this is somewhat inevitable. I think it would be unfortunate if the conversation devolved into an attempt to place blame or accusers others of bad faith. I hope we can all try to hear what the others are saying in the assumption of the best possible intentions, that we are all motivated by similar concerns, at a general level, about understanding the world and ourselves.