Do Unto Others As You Wish To Do Unto Them

[mrscardero]

Feathersinhair - I would have to say that sometimes the best way to discuss an individual religion is to pair it alongside another individual religion to see how the two stack up against each other. Comparison doesn't hurt a discussion, nor necessitate debate. I say lets compare.

You are right that comparison does not hurt but when you come into terms of religion agains another religion, debate will come into play. Taking two religions and stacking them up against each other, one religion is to assume that the other will fall.

 

[Athosxc]

Feathers in hair,
Christians definitely believe in absolutes, not relativism. The way God created and established the world was 100% good. Rather than have a bunch of robots or puppets (choose your own analogy) to serve Him, He created man with the ability to choose. Either God and His way (carried out through faith and trust in that God will have only our best in His plans) or to choose our own way apart from God. You see, God requires all of us, not just part, we cannot serve Him and ourselves. Satan (in christian circles) led (not caused)humans to do the same thing he had done. He desired to have the power of God for himself, to be like God,...He chose his own way out of pride. For this he was cast out of heaven. He convinced Adam and Eve to make the same choice out of the same pride. That they would know and be like God, able to do as they wanted, not only as God wanted.

The thing about good and evil is this. Just because humans chose their own way, doesn't mean God isn't God anymore. He made a way to bring humans back to Himself. The bible says that God works evil for good. Even when we go against Him, in the end He is all-powerful and will work His good and perfect will in our lives if we will trust Him alone. There is no good in evil or vice versa. They are the antithesis of each other. Complete opposites. Satanism and Christianity have only one thing in common. That they both know God and Satan exist and deep down that Satan will ultimately lose. I know I know, from what I say it sounds like a personal vendetta. Well, according to the bible it is.
Every satanist may not claim to be anti-God, but the religion they practice and follow is in reverence to Satan who IS very much in a personal vendetta against God.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I prefer "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If I did unto others as I wished, it would cause a tremendous amount of pain.

I didn't realize that my post would cause so much reaction here, and I think that just about everyone got what I was trying to say.

Most of the time, what I want to do to other people is not what I would have others do unto me. For exmaple, I would really like to outfit my car like James Bond and send guided missles out to cars on the freeway and destroy everyone in my path (mwhaahahahahaha!!).

Seriously though, the standards which I have for myself are higher than the standards that I have for other people. If I did unto others as I wished, then my wishes for them are lower than the wishes that I have for myself. If I use myself as the standard, then I will treat other people better.

BTW, treating people as we wish is the root of all ethical problems and law suits. We wish to neglect others more than we wish to care for others. In short, we wish to fulfill our own greed before caring for others.

 

[Athosxc]

Which I believe was the point of many of Jesus' parables. Funny, 2000 years later and the lesson is still the same....we've come so far and gotten no further. And we think things have changed so much. Hmmm...

 

[Era]

Athosxc , nice story , but it doesn`t fit not even little satanism `s theory about hell and heaven . In the first place no satanist in this world believes that he will lose . Now you see , people don`t know much about satanism , but they talk a lot . You are trying to find a scapegoat , what could be better than satanism . Well , for your information and others when you talk about satanism , you talk about a variety of believes . Some believe in Satan as a living deity , some don`t . There is another problem that christianity create , when it comes for us to know your theories , we have to know them , but when it comes for christians to have the decence to make a diference between satanism`s theories the things doesn`t go the same .

 

[michel]

I didn't realize that my post would cause so much reaction here, and I think that just about everyone got what I was trying to say.

Most of the time, what I want to do to other people is not what I would have others do unto me. For exmaple, I would really like to outfit my car like James Bond and send guided missles out to cars on the freeway and destroy everyone in my path (mwhaahahahahaha!!).

Seriously though, the standards which I have for myself are higher than the standards that I have for other people. If I did unto others as I wished, then my wishes for them are lower than the wishes that I have for myself. If I use myself as the standard, then I will treat other people better.

BTW, treating people as we wish is the root of all ethical problems and law suits. We wish to neglect others more than we wish to care for others. In short, we wish to fulfill our own greed before caring for others.

Whilst That is exactly the way I go about from day to day, it is a hard grind. It is easy to fall into the trap of becomming a cynic; add to your above phylosophy 'Love' will conquer all. Marie and I have diametrically opposed ways of dealing with people; I accept them at face value and won't believe they are anything but good until proved otherwise. My wife thinks I'm just plain naive and gullible.

 

[Athosxc]

Athosxc , nice story , but it doesn`t fit not even little satanism `s theory about hell and heaven . In the first place no satanist in this world believes that he will lose . Now you see , people don`t know much about satanism , but they talk a lot . You are trying to find a scapegoat , what could be better than satanism . Well , for your information and others when you talk about satanism , you talk about a variety of believes . Some believe in Satan as a living deity , some don`t . There is another problem that christianity create , when it comes for us to know your theories , we have to know them , but when it comes for christians to have the decence to make a diference between satanism`s theories the things doesn`t go the same .


Era, You misunderstand me, I'm in no way afraid of discussing Satanism's theories. More than willing to. AND, I can assure you, I'm not scapegoating.....I can't even think of something to scapegoat for. If you see a scapegoat here, let me know, because I certainly don't. If you have a particular viewpoint that you've heard before that does create a scapegoat position, please share it and we'll both know what grounds are being discussed here. I'm all about honest discussion, not making groundless claims to further my views. I'll admit, my claims are grounded in my faith, but I'm certainly willing to discuss from an intellectual view as well and leave faith out of it if you so desire, but no name calling is necessary, I scapegoat no one, that wouldn't be fair to Satanists, or satanists.

 

[Era]

Athosxc , let me tell you in the first place that you are one of the fiew christians that really are open to disscution and I do sincerely apreciate that !

 

[Athosxc]

You're very welcome, and I appreciate the complement. Hard-headedness gets nowhere....I just try to remind myself of that....hopefully before I speak