Do We All Worship the Same God?

[Linus7]

Do we?

In order to make this poll somewhat intelligible to all, I am making a few arbitrary assumptions in posting. They are as follows:

1. Christians means those who have been baptized with water in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and who profess the beliefs described in The Nicene Creed, regardless of denominational or sectarian affiliation.
2. I have assumed that all such Christians worship the same God, the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If you wish to argue that they do not, start a new thread. This is not the right one for such arguments.
3. Those persons who do not profess the beliefs contained in The Nicene Creed, are not regarded as Christians for the purposes of this poll and thread. If you wish to argue that they are Christians, start a new thread. This is not the right one for those kinds of arguments either.

I hope all that is clear.

 

[Green Gaia]

Is this poll just for EOs? Just asking cos I like polls.

 

[jewscout]

Is this poll just for EOs? Just asking cos I like polls.

me 2 Maize!!:woohoo:

 

[No*s]

I voted for "Only Christians worship the true God." However, most people don't believe they worship a false deity either, and some people on here believe we do .

 

[Linus7]

Is this poll just for EOs? Just asking cos I like polls.

No, not really.

Fire away!

 

[jewscout]

I voted for "Only Christians worship the true God." However, most people don't believe they worship a false deity either, and some people on here believe we do .

hold on No*s what about us??

 

[No*s]

No, not really.

Fire away!

Would you object to Maize putting it in a more appropriate forum then? It would fit well in comparative religions, for instance.

 

[Linus7]

Would you object to Maize putting it in a more appropriate forum then? It would fit well in comparative religions, for instance.

I'm not sure it would really fit, given that most of the options are written from the Christian perspective, but I wouldn't object.

Maybe I should have posted one purely for Catholic consumption in the forum we share with the RCs and one for Comparative Religions.

I am curious to see the poll results and the explanations (and/or arguments) in the posts.

 

[No*s]

hold on No*s what about us??

The question is more complicated than the forum gives answer. We believe the true God to be Triune, and rejecting that is like rejecting the Son. That said, there is the Logos concept that various peoples in various places have different parts of the Logos and light. The Jews, naturally, have quite a bit of the Logos, but have not accepted the Trinity (I say "not accepted," because it was never there in Judaism).

I could see it in that sense, but Orthodoxy is very exclusivist, and I was interpreting the poll in the most absolute sense, which wouldn't include the Logos concept. If I include the Logos concept, then yes, I see God working to some degree in every religion, and would see a good bit in Judaism.

Perhaps I should have been more verbose...

 

[Halcyon]

The very nature of the question implies a belief that more than one God can exist, surely if you believe that God is truly God then whatever form people worship it, it can only ever be the true God? :sarcastic

 

[Green Gaia]

Yes. All religions worship God from different perspectives.

 

[No*s]

I'm not sure it would really fit, given that most of the options are written from the Christian perspective, but I wouldn't object.

Maybe I should have posted one purely for Catholic consumption in the forum we share with the RCs and one for Comparative religions.

I am curious to see the poll results and the explanations (and/or arguments) in the posts.

OK . I was just wondering, because it's a pretty open poll .

 

[Green Gaia]

Moved to Comparative Religion...

 

[jewscout]

i chose I don't know...because frankly...i don't know...i believe!

I believe that HaShem has made Himself apparent to all peoples but we choose to worship Him differently based on how we interpret that encounter w/ the Divine....but i don't KNOW...

This of course goes to my crayon box theory on the Divine...which is supported by the writings of the sages which shows that all the nations of man had an experience w/ the Divine when they were offered the Torah...

 

[Linus7]

The very nature of the question implies a belief that more than one God can exist, surely if you believe that God is truly God then whatever form people worship it, it can only ever be the true God? :sarcastic

No offense, but I disagree.

The only implication is that there is the true God and there are a myriad of figments or false gods that various people worship in place of God.

 

[Linus7]

The question is more complicated than the forum gives answer. We believe the true God to be Triune, and rejecting that is like rejecting the Son. That said, there is the Logos concept that various peoples in various places have different parts of the Logos and light. The Jews, naturally, have quite a bit of the Logos, but have not accepted the Trinity (I say "not accepted," because it was never there in Judaism).

I could see it in that sense, but Orthodoxy is very exclusivist, and I was interpreting the poll in the most absolute sense, which wouldn't include the Logos concept. If I include the Logos concept, then yes, I see God working to some degree in every religion, and would see a good bit in Judaism.

Perhaps I should have been more verbose...

I believe the doctrine of the Trinity was implicit in authentic Old Testament Judaism. Certainly Abraham knew God as the Holy Trinity.

But that is fodder for another thread. I don't want to sidetrack this one.

 

[Green Gaia]

Yes. All religions worship God from different perspectives.

I feel the need to qualify this statement with "if there is a God"

Also, not all religions "worship" God, but do seek truth in their own way.

 

[Halcyon]

No offense, but I disagree.

None taken , you're allowed to disagree, but i wouldn't advise it :areyoucra

The only implication is that there is the true God and there are a myriad of figments or false gods that various people worship in place of God.

Surely if you worship a deity you believe is supreme, then it can truly be nothing but God, even if you address the envelope 'wrong' in this case it'll reach the right person.

 

[Linus7]

I feel the need to qualify this statement with "if there is a God"

Also, not all religions "worship" God, but do seek truth in their own way.

I should probably have listed the existence of God as one of the poll's assumptions, as well.

I thought about mentioning that I was assuming an equivalence between worshipping and seeking, but it occurred to me that I am more interested (in this poll anyway) in the opinions of those who feel they have found the truth, rather than in those of seekers.

Besides, it seems to me a real seeker would answer I don't know . . . yet.

I also used the word worship in the sense of the practice of a particular religion.

 

[michel]

None taken , you're allowed to disagree, but i wouldn't advise it :areyoucra


Surely if you worship a deity you believe is supreme, then it can truly be nothing but God, even if you address the envelope 'wrong' in this case it'll reach the right person.

Halcyon, I agree with you entirely, even down to your signature.
even if you address the envelope 'wrong' in this case it'll reach the right person - That is very well put