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Do we have to destroy the world to save it?

Kenny

Kenny

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KW said:
Do We Have to Destroy the Earth to Save It? | PragerU

From the Founder of Environmental Progress.

What impact does green energy have on our natural world?
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I brought up, in another thread, the issue of turbines killing millions of birds. It seems like the strong environmentalists ultimately didn't care that we were killing all those birds. It gave me a "hmmmmm" moment.

Another great thoughtful presentation that should be discussed IMO

How Many Birds Are Killed by Wind Turbines?

The American Wind Energy Association reports that there were 60,067 megawatts (MW) of wind energy capacity in the U.S. in 2012, versus 111,808 as of this writing in 2021 — an 86-percent increase. Taking this change into account, it can be projected that approximately 681,000 birds are currently killed by wind turbines in the U.S. each year.

And this is ONLY in the US.
 
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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Unfortunately, the rate of warming is happening faster than what was even hypothesized a few years ago. It's so bizarre and malicious that so many seem not to care.
 
KW

KW

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exchemist said:
More junk from PragerU I see.

I wonder when you will actually present an argument for yourself, instead of outsourcing it to a video.
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Everyone can see how dishonest the critics of PragerU are. Nothing backs up the slander.

Facts annoy leftists.
 
KW

KW

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metis said:
Unfortunately, the rate of warming is happening faster than what was even hypothesized a few years ago. It's so bizarre and malicious that so many seem not to care.
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People don’t care because it isn’t true.

Did you know that the winter of 2021 was the coldest ever recorded in the Antarctic?

Probably not, because the leftist news sources bury inconvenient truths.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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KW said:
People don’t care because it isn’t true.

Did you know that the winter of 2021 was the coldest ever recorded in the Antarctic?

Probably not, because the leftist news sources bury inconvenient truths.
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Do you know what a trend line is? How about finding the median in a set of data points? This is all stuff we learned in grade school.
 
KW

KW

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Wandering Monk said:
Hmm. Hard to imagine the whole planet is a heat island. Also, CO2 concentrations in the past can be measured by ice cores.
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No, a heat island occurs in Urban areas dominated by concrete and asphalt. Many weather station locations have been swallowed by urban sprawl.
 
Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Of course, these are solvable problems and could have been solved sooner without can-kicking.

Do we ignore the impact climate change has on wildlife? Or do we progress and try to solve these problems.

Wind Power and Birds

"Audubon strongly supports wind power and recognizes that it will not be without some impact; however, harmful effects to birds and other wildlife can be avoided or significantly reduced in the following ways:

  • Federal, state or local planning for wind energy in “low impact” areas where permitting can be more efficient
  • Proper siting and operation of wind farms and equipment through federal and state guidelines
  • Development of new technologies that help minimize harm to birds and other wildlife
  • Mitigation of habitat and wildlife impacts through conservation measures;
  • Strong enforcement of existing laws that protect wildlife, including the Endangered Species Act, the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.
  • Encouragement of wind developers and permitting agencies to consult with wildlife experts, including Audubon staff and chapters, to help inform study and siting decisions and to support efforts to improve wind siting and technological solutions to reduce harm to birds."
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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KW said:
No, a heat island occurs in Urban areas dominated by concrete and asphalt. Many weather station locations have been swallowed by urban sprawl.
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I know that. I have been hearing this for decades from climate change deniers. As if this is the only way of measuring warming.

Infrared satellite imaging and atmospheric CO2 and methane concentrations are measurable. CO2 concentrations surpassed 400 parts per million for the first time ever.
 
It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

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KW said:
Do We Have to Destroy the Earth to Save It? | PragerU
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You provide an orphan link (no accompanying argument) from a disreputable source. I looked at your other link yesterday for about a minute and found specious, tendentious argumentation, which is de rigueur for both conservative and Christian sites in general. I don't go to either for facts much less opinions. As I posted yesterday, I don't get my science from these people.

So what's the incentive to look at your video besides to identify the deception? That's a worthwhile exercise until one has learned to do it, but not thereafter.

Also, you denied global warming on the first page of this thread. That's a litmus test, like calling evolution only a theory, or calling coronavirus vaccines more dangerous than Covid.

And your use of the word leftist is pretty foreboding, especially when you claim they don't like facts. Do you call yourself and others like you rightists?
 
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