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I don't.Do we need God?
Orichalcum said:Well it's not like God has done much for us so far, so why do we feel like we need God?
Should we just say to hell with God?
Orichalcum said:Well it's not like God has done much for us so far, so why do we feel like we need God?
Should we just say to hell with God?
Victor said:Need?...No
Want/desire...Yes
robtex said:Vic, if you believe God is the creator of life than isn't your existance contingent on his s ablity/desire to create life and thus a need?
Victor said:The contingency would be upon those things that he created, not necessarily Him. For example: He created water, so therefore I thirst. My need is water, not Him. It's indirect, not direct. There is tons of examples you can use for this.
robtex said:Not to pick at your logic, but you are thirsty therefore you need water is correct. Water exists therefore you are thirsty is a non-sequitur because the cause and effect are reversed.
standing_alone said:Well, I, personally, don't need a god. Life is better for me without him - and I feel I'm a more moral person without him. But some other's may "need" a god to provide them with morals to follow and give them meaning. I, myself, just happen to have better morals and a better meaning for my life (as I define for myself) without a god than with one. For others, it is different (as will be their morals and purpose of life as they define it).
you certainly don't like yourself.standing_alone said:Well, I, personally, don't need a god. Life is better for me without him - and I feel I'm a more moral person without him. But some other's may "need" a god to provide them with morals to follow and give them meaning. I, myself, just happen to have better morals and a better meaning for my life (as I define for myself) without a god than with one. For others, it is different (as will be their morals and purpose of life as they define it).
open_mind said:you certainly don't like yourself.
-God created you and you reject him: OK thats your ethics(or your good morals).
-but when you know he has the ability and power to end your life at any moment and you still reject him,then excuse me,you don't care about yourself because you chose a position face to face to a power you know you have no chance against.