Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?

[Saint Frankenstein]

I will not speak for Levite- but I think you're largely projecting you're assumptions about Jews onto us. You are no more special than any Jewish person, likewise. For what respect I have for you- don't play this "special snowflake" ********.

Where did I say I was more special than anyone? I was pointing out to Levite that his line of arguing isn't going to work with me. You need to check yourself and think about who is really trying to play the "special snowflake" card here. It ain't me.

 

[Flankerl]

Some have those beliefs. And?

The expert has spoken.

Do those tribes mistreat those who marry outside of their tribe? If so, they should called out, too. Africans and South Americans have always been intermingling with each other. I'm not sure about Polynesians since I'm not too familiar with their cultures.

No one is being mistreated. Being shouted at is far from being mistreated.

Do you really think the article in the OP is the only time this has happened?

As a jewish right wing fundamentalist i have no knowledge about this, do you?

As if you're the best judge of such things.

Haha

 

[CynthiaCypher]

No one is being mistreated. Being shouted at is far from being mistreated.

Threatening her husband with death is not mistreatment? On what planet?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The expert has spoken.

Stop with the snark.

No one is being mistreated. Being shouted at is far from being mistreated.

Did you even read the article? If so, you're hopeless.

As a jewish right wing fundamentalist i have no knowledge about this, do you?

Since such things have happened in my family, yes. (Minus the lunatic crowd shouting genocidal slogans.)

 

[Alceste]

Threatening her husband with death is not mistreatment? On what planet?

Yeah, right. If I showed up at a synagogue with a couple hundred of my closest friends during Flankerl's wedding and we all screamed "Death to Jews!" together, I'm sure she would not feel in the least bit mistreated.

 

[Flankerl]

Threatening her husband with death is not mistreatment? On what planet?

Radicals behave like radicals. All the new stuff iam learning.

I loved the part where you and your friends grouped every Jew of this forum together with a small group of radicals and you ignored every explanation given by one of us again and again.

Yeah, right. If I showed up at a synagogue with a couple hundred of my closest friends during Flankerl's wedding and we all screamed "Death to Jews!" together, I'm sure she would not feel in the least bit mistreated.

I wouldnt be really surprised because it has happened before.

Iam rather cynic when its about something like that. Its almost friday which means the poor policemen will have to keep the retards away from our synagogue more than during all other days of the week.
But iam probably just imagining it all.

Stop with the snark.

Why should i stop while others shouldnt?

Did you even read the article? If so, you're hopeless.

A hopeless jewish right wing fundamentalist. Meh i've heard worse.

Since such things have happened in my family, yes. (Minus the lunatic crowd shouting genocidal slogans.)

So do the Jews regulary descent upon the Catholics in your area?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Go read over Levite's posts in this thread.

Where has Levite advocated "trying to control people's lives by pressuring them to uphold exclusionary tribal practices under threat of being shunned"?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Radicals behave like radicals. All the new stuff iam learning.

I loved the part where you and your friends grouped every Jew of this forum together with a small group of radicals and you ignored every explanation given by one of us again and again.

What was your explanation? Oh I remember:

No one is being mistreated. Being shouted at is far from being mistreated.

To which I ask how is it not mistreatment to which you decided to avoid answering.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So do the Jews regulary descent upon the Catholics in your area?

No, I meant divisions and estrangement within family due to ethnic and religious conflicts. The black side of my family is racist against whites and the white side of my family is racist against blacks. Plus, my mom's first husband was Jewish and she was never accepted by her in-laws because she is a Gentile and a Christian. So I have personal experience of how toxic those sort of attitudes are.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No, I meant divisions and estrangement within family due to ethnic and religious conflicts. The black side of my family is racist against whites and the white side of my family is racist against blacks. Plus, my mom's first husband was Jewish and she was never accepted by her in-laws because she is a Gentile and a Christian. So I have personal experience of how toxic those sort of attitudes are.

Then stop projecting.

Now, again, where has Levite advocated "trying to control people's lives by pressuring them to uphold exclusionary tribal practices under threat of being shunned"?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Then stop projecting.

I'm not projecting ****. I'm seeing the same mindsets that I experienced in the above example being bandied about here but my concerns about it are being brushed aside and I'm being called a ******* "bigot" for finding it unacceptable. I'm about to drop out of this thread because I'm sick of it and people don't want to take a step back and examine what they're promoting.

Now, again, where has Levite advocated "trying to control people's lives by pressuring them to uphold exclusionary tribal practices under threat of being shunned"?

Did you read his post where he said that if a Jew becomes a Christian or Muslim, they're cut off from their people?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Did you read his post where he said that if a Jew becomes a Christian or Muslim, they're cut off from their people?

And that she must face the consequences for transgressing against her people. He was vague about what those consequences were though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And that she must face the consequences for transgressing against her people. He was vague about what those consequences were though.

Yeah, and he called them "apostate Jews".

 

[LuisDantas]

Yeah, and he called them "apostate Jews".

Do you object? It is an accurate description of someone who leaves Judaism to adhere to Islam, whether there is any dark feeling involved or not.

 

[xkatz]

Where did I say I was more special than anyone? I was pointing out to Levite that his line of arguing isn't going to work with me. You need to check yourself and think about who is really trying to play the "special snowflake" card here. It ain't me.

This:

Yet you want to act like you're special. You're not. Get over yourself. And don't try to play the minority card with me, either. I'm a member of multiple minorities. You're a Jew who lives in Chicago, and you're probably a white Jew, too. You're not persecuted so quit with the lame attempt at playing the Oppression Olympics.

Sounds an awful lot an angry tumblr rant if you ask me. Comparing yourself as a "multiple minorities" person to Levite being a "white Jew" is an attempt to turn this in some sort of privilege checking ****-show. I expect better of you than that.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Do you object? It is an accurate description of someone who leaves Judaism to adhere to Islam, whether there is any dark feeling involved or not.

That is the problem, often dark feelings are invoked when that word is used. Like the feeling that somehow this person committed betrayal and transgressed against the community nd that they should face the consequences of their betrayal.

 

[xkatz]

Yeah, and he called them "apostate Jews".

And a Catholic who leaves the RCC isn't one? And Protestantism isn't a heresy?

 

[LuisDantas]

That is the problem, often dark feelings are invoked when that word is used. Like the feeling that somehow this person committed betrayal and transgressed against the community nd that they should face the consequences of their betrayal.

Maybe it is just me, but saying that people "often" do undesirable things without showing evidence that they actually did looks remarkably like, you know, prejudice and bigotry.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And a Catholic who leaves the RCC isn't one? And Protestantism isn't a heresy?

It's a negative term that we don't tend to use anymore. A person can freely choose to leave the Catholic Church if they so desire. We will not shun them or cut them off. If any Catholic does, they are not showing charity.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Maybe it is just me, but saying that people "often" do undesirable things without showing evidence that they actually did looks remarkably like, you know, prejudice and bigotry.

What did I say? I said that a certain word like apostate often invokes dark feelings. How could it not? Basically an apostate is thought of as an person who turns away or betrays or transgresses his or her community. All of that has negative connotations.