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Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?

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xkatz

xkatz

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Saint Frankenstein said:
It's a negative term that we don't tend to use anymore.
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But it is used, nonetheless:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines these three sins against the faith in this way:
2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it.
"Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;
apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith;
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A person can freely choose to leave the Catholic Church if they so desire. We will not shun them or cut them off. If any Catholic does, they are not showing charity.
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I don't see how this is any different than what the majority of RF Jews have been saying.
 
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Levite

Levite

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So the upshot seems to be that some people here believe that there should be no rules and obligations for a person beyond their own desires and pleasures, and if they do happen to break some rules in their society, there should be no consequences, and they should not have to feel they did anything wrong.

Sure, that's likely to be an effective and functional model....
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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xkatz said:
But it is used, nonetheless:

I don't see how this is any different than what the majority of RF Jews have been saying.
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Did you miss the part where I said they're not shunned or cut off from "their people"? Catholicism isn't some ethnic or tribal identity. It's nothing like what some of the Jews on here have been saying. We're a universalist religion, not a tribal one.
 
dantech

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Levite said:
So the upshot seems to be that some people here believe that there should be no rules and obligations for a person beyond their own desires and pleasures, and if they do happen to break some rules in their society, there should be no consequences, and they should not have to feel they did anything wrong.

Sure, that's likely to be an effective and functional model....
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Also, it's somehow wrong to cut off from our people someone who decided to cut herself off from our people. It's not only wrong, it's bigotry!
 
Poeticus

Poeticus

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500+ posts; ~5,000+ views. And yet the "bigoty" remains without an "r". I have now lost all hope in humanity.
 
CynthiaCypher

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Levite said:
So the upshot seems to be that some people here believe that there should be no rules and obligations for a person beyond their own desires and pleasures
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Only insofar that they harm none.

and if they do happen to break some rules in their society, there should be no consequences, and they should not have to feel they did anything wrong.

Sure, that's likely to be an effective and functional model....
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Did she break some law that would make her a criminal? If so what should her punishment be according to that law?
 
xkatz

xkatz

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Saint Frankenstein said:
Did you miss the part where I said they're not shunned or cut off from "their people"? Catholicism isn't some ethnic or tribal identity. It's nothing like what some of the Jews on here have been saying. We're a universalist religion, not a tribal one.
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Who here is advocating shunning? And yes, a person would be cut-off from the Catholic Church if they left it (as well as committing a sin according to Catholic theology), much like if someone left the Jewish community.
 
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LuisDantas

LuisDantas

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CynthiaCypher said:
What did I say? I said that a certain word like apostate often invokes dark feelings. How could it not? Basically an apostate is thought of as an person who turns away or betrays or transgresses his or her community. All of that has negative connotations.
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You are really not seeing it. Ok then.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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Poeticus said:
[my attempt at being Revoltingest] I'll shove that "pedanty" right up your revolting alley, you double-malt heathen ! [/end attempt at being Revoltingest]
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So now you're "angy" about the accusation of "pedanty" over "bigoty", eh?
 
Poeticus

Poeticus

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Revoltingest said:
So now you're "angy" about the accusation of "pedanty" over "bigoty", eh?
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Nah, not really. It's just OCD. I would have put this thread on ignore, but I can't find an option that hides away threads or puts them on ignore. I cringe every time this thread comes up in the Today's Post feed as unread and the mods and admins have yet to change the misspelling of the last term.
 
Alceste

Alceste

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Poeticus said:
Nah, not really. It's just OCD. I would have put this thread on ignore, but I can't find an option that hides away threads or puts them on ignore. I cringe every time this thread comes up in the Today's Post feed as unread and the mods and admins have yet to change the misspelling of the last term.
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Look at it this way. It's not fully bigoted. It's bigotry lite. AKA "bigotish", or "bigoty". IOW, Only a little bigoted compared to other forms of anti-miscegenation.
 
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