Do we want witchcraft?

[syo]

I read in Galatians 5:19-24.That one of the sins of our sinful nature could be witchcraft.Do you see what I am talking about?

Yup.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If black magic were demonstrated to be real and effective - not gonna lie - I'd be grabbing a wand and cowl.

I'd go necromancer and conjure a couple of Hell hounds for my driveway.

No more leaving religious pamphlets stuck into the door. *grin*

 

[Father Heathen]

I'd go necromancer and conjure a couple of Hell hounds for my driveway.

No more leaving religious pamphlets stuck into the door. *grin*

Wrong school of magick. Warlocks summon demons, necromancers raise the dead.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Wrong school of magick. Warlocks summon demons, necromancers raise the dead.

Those damm protestants!

 

[ChristineM]

I read in Galatians 5:19-24.That one of the sins of our sinful nature could be witchcraft.Do you see what I am talking about?

Religion is a form of witchcraft, incantations (prayer) to gain favour of a spirit (god) is a common theme in both witchcraft and religion.

Difference is religion outlawed witchcraft (so religion cannot be called witchraft) because witchcraft is in direct competition with religion.

And who wants competition that is more fun.

 

[Link]

True power and energy and guidance and light is from God and is channeled through those who are his holy spirit. Spiritual power not emanating from God is limited, and it's weak seeking the weak and leads to blindness to God's holy light. It's benefits are temporary for temporary pleasures, while God's sustenance is everlasting. Dark magic makes God's word appear low in the soul so to annul it you make God's word high.

The same punishment of those who follow unjust leaders outwardly is the same to those who follow devils inwardly, the destination is hell. Magic is about spiritual power, if you seek energy from corrupted sources, you will go to hell.

That said, Ahlulbayt (a) taught all sorts of words to say to annul dark magic and fight it off.

The proper means to God is his rope, Quran and Ahlulbayt (A), why people choose spiritual of their own and their own chosen sources of guidance from Jinn and humans, is beyond me, when God has chosen for us guidance and appointed us leaders and means towards him.

 

[The Hammer]

So many negative side effects with drugs. Magick, not so much.

Magick always comes with a price.

 

[crossfire]

People say the same for drugs.

Interesting that you should say this. The word translated as witchcraft is pharmakeia (as in pharmacy-drugs.)
G5331 - pharmakeia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. the use or the administering of drugs
   
   
2. poisoning
   
   
3. sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
   
   
4. metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry

 

[crossfire]

Now, I can see pharmakeia applied in the sense of poisoning minds (greed, hatred, and delusion being the three poisons of Buddhism.)
This song tells of a classic example of this:

 

[Sand Dancer]

Magick always comes with a price.

Can it be harmful if your intentions are good?

 

[Viker]

If black magic were demonstrated to be real and effective - not gonna lie - I'd be grabbing a wand and cowl.

I could help you with this! It will cost you something.

 

[VoidCat]

Can it be harmful if your intentions are good?

Yes depending on the spell
Spells can backfire

 

[Father Heathen]

I can give you some pointers.

I could help you with this! It will cost you something.

My curiousity's piqued.

 

[Viker]

Can it be harmful if your intentions are good?

You could have good intentions and not have proper methodology or mentoring.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Wow, I didn't realize it was so powerful.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Yes depending on the spell
Spells can backfire

That's scary. What can cause that?

 

[VoidCat]

That's scary. What can cause that?

A few things could. Like not having clear intentions.

 

[JonSL]

I am sure that the vast majority of people "into" witchcraft...aren't really going out in the woods and doing ceremonies or anything.

I was hitchhiking across the country and met a guy. He told me that there was a Satanic Biker Gang in Florida. Their initiation rite was to murder a random baby and throw it in a dumpster.

There definitely is some weird correlation between Satanic groups and crime, violent crime and murder. I would assume the FBI has some statistics about that somewhere.

So, you know, among alternative people there are regular normal folks...and there are dangerous extremists.

I think most people into witchcraft just like herbal medicine and maybe cast a spell or two...and that is about it.

I don't know that all that is such a big deal.

But I do know that there are some super extreme lunatics out there who do some seriously crazy stuff.

So, if they hand you the knife when you are poised above the tied up virgin, might be a good time to excuse yourself to attend to that Zoom call you might miss...

On my spiritual journey, for the first two years, I was into some Mexican sorcery path.

After that, I moved into Hinduism...meditation, Hatha Yoga, etc...

Works for me.

Affirmations are not all that different than casting spells. We do engage with affirmations.

Trying to go up, look to the light and all that. Been around plenty of darkness in the world and plenty inside myself also. Never found any happiness or peace there.