Do you agree with this statement?

[Heyo]

The scientific method can't be used to determine anything outside of nature. God obviously isn't part of the world he created.

Scientists limit themselves to the natural world. That doesn't mean the scientific method can't be used elsewhere (probably with modification). Even if every experiment would result in "inconclusive", it would still be a more reliable tool than "communicating with the maker".

 

[Wildswanderer]

Scientists limit themselves to the natural world. That doesn't mean the scientific method can't be used elsewhere (probably with modification). Even if every experiment would result in "inconclusive", it would still be a more reliable tool than "communicating with the maker".

That's silly. It's like trying to use a normal thermometer to measure the temperature of the Sun.

 

[Heyo]

That's silly. It's like trying to use a normal thermometer to measure the temperature of the Sun.

If I use a normal thermometer (and some maths and assumptions, all scientific), I get a more reliable answer than asking a bunch of believers what their religion or prayers tell them.

 

[Wildswanderer]

If I use a normal thermometer (and some maths and assumptions, all scientific), I get a more reliable answer than asking a bunch of believers what their religion or prayers tell them.

An assumption isn't a fact. So you end up with nothing.
Our prayers tell us we are loved by an infinite creator.

 

[Heyo]

An assumption isn't a fact. So you end up with nothing.
Our prayers tell us we are loved by an infinite creator.

Do they tell you the temperature of the sun? And if I ask different people who pray about that question, will I get the same answer?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Do they tell you the temperature of the sun? And if I ask different people who pray about that question, will I get the same answer?

Why would I ask about the temperature of the sun?
Certainly all knowledge comes from God, so everything we know about the universe,( assuming any of it it is correct) came from him.

And I can give you multiple answers to the question of what prayer does, because it's multi-dimensional.

 

[Tiberius]

I believe I was also.

So there are plenty of discussions about why YOU specifically feel evolution is lacking evidence? Sorry, but I don't recall seeing any threads titled "Why Muffled feels there is insufficient evidence for evolution."

 

[SkepticThinker]

That's your opinion. Shrug.

You've just demonstrated that poster's claim all by yourself.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'm not about religion. I'm talking about having a relationship with God.

God seems to tell different people different things. So what method can we use to determine who is saying true things and who isn't?

 

[SkepticThinker]

The scientific method can't be used to determine anything outside of nature. God obviously isn't part of the world he created.

Obviously? How did you demonstrate that?

 

[SkepticThinker]

With God all things are possible.

That's the claim, anyway. Where's the evidence for God? Which God(s)?

Atheists are the most narrow minded of all religions.

Atheists lack belief in god(s). Kinda hard to have a religion without any gods.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why would I ask about the temperature of the sun?
Certainly all knowledge comes from God, so everything we know about the universe,( assuming any of it it is correct) came from him.

And I can give you multiple answers to the question of what prayer does, because it's multi-dimensional.

Everything we know about the universe came from our use of the scientific method.