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Do you ask questions about the spiritual teaching you believe in?

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

Faith and trust are almost the same. Faith is belief, but doesn't require proof.

God cannot be proven to exist.

Scriptures cannot usually be proven.

So, there is no point in questioning scriptures.

Just obey scriptures, even if different scriptures and interpretations differ, and don't ask questions.

For example, when the al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center, obey the scriptures and don't attack other nations. Let God handle it.

If terrorist organizations are about to kill your family, don't object, it is all a part of God's plan, so let the terrorist win and kill your loved ones.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Faith and trust are almost the same. Faith is belief, but doesn't require proof.

God cannot be proven to exist.

Scriptures cannot usually be proven.

So, there is no point in questioning scriptures.

Just obey scriptures, even if different scriptures and interpretations differ, and don't ask questions.

For example, when the al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center, obey the scriptures and don't attack other nations. Let God handle it.

If terrorist organizations are about to kill your family, don't object, it is all a part of God's plan, so let the terrorist win and kill your loved ones.
I can not stop asking questions, and to me, terrorists are not from God, they are demons ( in my view)
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?
Revelation was written by a psychic, and psychics use various parts of their brains that are made to process normal senses to process ESP. As a result, they see visions and hear sounds that have nothing to do with reality, then they need to rely on their experiences in order to interpret the symbols. For example, candles might mean churches to them.

The human brain is not designed to process ESP, and this is why interpretation is necessary.

But, since Revelation is so abstract, most people don't understand it (at least not right away). First they must realize that there is a message in all of that, secondly, they must dedicate some time to understanding what that message is.

We must also bear in mind that kings and popes rewrote sections of the bible, so they might not be the word of God any longer. There are even parts of the bible that contradict other parts of the bible (so we know that there are errors somewhere).

Despite all of that, the bible is the only thing that we know about God (except what we feel about God, and except for psychic visions).

So, we must accept that some bible (probably the oldest version of the bible) is the most accurate version.

This is why the work of Reverend Melissa Scott (wife of the late Reverend Gene Scott) is so very important. She has a team of researchers translating ancient texts in various languages to discern the true meaning of the bible.

It is important to understand that spreading the word of God is fine, but killing others over their beliefs is not. Our political and religious leaders should rule with patience and compassion, and not use war (or torture) as the first method. Diplomacy comes first.

There is much good in the bible, but potential for much harm (as history has taught us).
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I can not stop asking questions, and to me, terrorists are not from God, they are demons ( in my view)
I never said that the terrorists are from God. However, God did say "thou shalt not kill," and "turn the other cheek." It is obvious that God would handle terrorists in his own sway.

If we demonize our enemies and say that anyone who would harm us is a demon, couldn't our enemies also say that when we killed a million innocent Iraqis who were not involved in terrorism, we were also demons?

God said "thou shalt not bear false witness" so when President W. Bush claimed that the enemy were evil...."fightin' the Axis of Evil" ...."fightin' evil"...."fightin' the doctor of death"....etc., he was demonizing the enemy, and not considering that they may have been terrorists becuase they were fighting against US policies abroad. For example, they consider Israel to be an occupying force...an interloper in their land, and they consider that the US is supporting the occupation of their land. They saw continued occupation of territories captured in the "6 days war" as taking their land. Diplomacy and talks were necessary, not war against nations that had nothing to do with terrorism.

Bearing false witness, in this case, meant that we demonized a nation that was merely taking the brunt of our attacks, and it motivated US forces (and allies) to attack them further.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I never said that the terrorists are from God. However, God did say "thou shalt not kill," and "turn the other cheek." It is obvious that God would handle terrorists in his own sway.

If we demonize our enemies and say that anyone who would harm us is a demon, couldn't our enemies also say that when we killed a million innocent Iraqis who were not involved in terrorism, we were also demons?

God said "thou shalt not bear false witness" so when President W. Bush claimed that the enemy were evil...."fightin' the Axis of Evil" ...."fightin' evil"...."fightin' the doctor of death"....etc., he was demonizing the enemy, and not considering that they may have been terrorists becuase they were fighting against US policies abroad. For example, they consider Israel to be an occupying force...an interloper in their land, and they consider that the US is supporting the occupation of their land. They saw continued occupation of territories captured in the "6 days war" as taking their land. Diplomacy and talks were necessary, not war against nations that had nothing to do with terrorism.

Bearing false witness, in this case, meant that we demonized a nation that was merely taking the brunt of our attacks, and it motivated US forces (and allies) to attack them further.
I do not have a good answer to your reply.
But I have a question if you dont mind.

Why do you keep bringing in Former president Bush in almost every answer? Even the discussion has from the beginning nothing to do about him?

I dont have any view of him at all.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?
The Christian bible is not the only source of God's words.

God spoke to all of his kids, and, as a result, there are strange predictions from around the world.

It isn't a coincidence that the last time that the planets aligned was in the Coptic (ancient Egyptian) year 666.

We know that the planets and moons and rotation of the core of the sun (which causes an 11 year cycle) are all harmonically linked. Such alignment would cause disruption on the sun (solar storms would undoubtedly be more intense).

Could it be that the fire of the sun is the fire of hell? Could something escape hell when the planets align?

 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I do not have a good answer to your reply.
But I have a question if you dont mind.

Why do you keep bringing in Former president Bush in almost every answer? Even the discussion has from the beginning nothing to do about him?

I dont have any view of him at all.

Religion has a great deal to do with Satan and his demons.
 

FEschat

New Member
Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

Oh yeah, I question a bunch :D
What I believe is that it is not all literal though I believe much is.
A lot of factors like language changes and also differences in meaning of terminology even within the same language it depends upon the culture etc...
but hey if someone does believe it is all literal, I'm ok with that. :)
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
That's just it, there's a realm beyond what's physically apparent. How can I know this realm without questioning it. First and foremost I have to open myself to its possibility. For if I never open myself to it, I'll never learn the questions to ask.

If I were not made for understanding I would not have the ability to understand. And to understand I must question. And that reveals that there is a logic to the ways of spirituality. If I don't regard spirituality than everything will seem meaningless in and of itself.

If meaning were unimportant than why am I a creature with the ability to make, and recognize meaning?

So I learn of innocence, and I learn of guilt. I learn of moral facts. And the power to question my own motives, and see the fruits of another's and my own.

Whatever is out there don't accept blind obedience. I can follow out of fear, or out of love and illumination.

I always come to the door of questions. And I welcome that.

Right now I wonder why not everything is a paved road, and I always must struggle to survive? And there are no givens? No guarantees?

Is this road of life just an illusion? Am I better off without a safety net? When so many never get a chance to live, shall I consider life a gift?
And if all my life is just episodes of tragedy, and suffering, and heartbreak, Do these things teach me anything getting me closer to a goal?

The human creation is a powerful one, and life and death are ever before us. This life cannot be the end all be all of the spiritual road. There's too much substance for everything to vaporize and disappear.

Do I mistake the goal as more important than the journey? All we have all our lives is the here and now. And yet perhaps the goal is sublime?

All I know is that I didn't necessarily have to exist.

If I can answer these questions then my spiritual journey continues.

Interestingly enough to me I see a divine purpose that is sublime. But I also see where I'm no better off than the mice chasing after it's next meal, and cover.

Do we have to lose everything to gain everything?

Questions are crucial, vital, and why should I think myself more important than another? The material standard, the intellectual standard, are not enough. There is a spiritual standard. That's what I pursue. Gotta question!



It's good to ask questions, and yours are some good questions.

It's also good to know that not all questions have answers
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Yes, in order to improve my spirituality by way of improving my memories, sharing of knowledge, and speeding my computational resources.


You don't think you might be confusing mind with spirit? Many very intelligent men and women have not found wisdom. Many simple ones have.
 
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