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Do you believe 11th September 2001 attacks was a conspiracy

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Its a bit of a scandal that so many architects and engineers (If the numbers / occupations are correct) don't buy the official explanation, so maybe they should have spend some more time examining the things and taken the time to answer peoples questions, which apparently there is a lot of I guess.
And some architects paniced because they knew were going to fall. Seriously. Some experts in the field called whatever officials they could to sound an alarm. I don't know how they keep getting overlooked and ignored.
Some have centered class lectures around the collapses and how and why they happened.
Plus the basic human psychology that out of all those people who would have known and been involved would not have kept an air tight secret this long.
About the only thing we haven't answered in detail is the extent of the knowledge and involvement of Saudi Arabia.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Yet 3-4 month later, again including cleaning up the scene and investigating it etc. they get rid of all the steel and probably a lot of the other materials that could potentially be useful in learning exactly how this structure collapsed and so we could learn from it.
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... I'm simply fed up with this ignorant rubbish.​

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Nimos

Well-Known Member
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... I'm simply fed up with this ignorant rubbish.​

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Fair enough no problem. But just a suggestion, in general communication with other people in the future. When YOU decide to ask someone for an explanation and they give you one, simply reacting with an ignore makes your initial question kind of stupid and pointless to begin with. So might be worth considering changing that behavior.

Besides that there might be a perfectly good explanation, which I don't know. I PERSONALLY think it is strange, doesn't mean that I believe there is any huge conspiracy going on here, as I said earlier the moment you ask questions about 9/11 you are instantly thrown in the category of being a conspiracy person, which I guess I was right about. Which is also why I tend to not bother with it, because people take it personal.

So just chill, nothing wrong in asking questions, even if they are not easy to handle or you personally think that everything makes perfectly sense.

I didn't write anything rude or offensive, simply stick to what I wrote. Again, let me stress, YOU ASKED ME for an explanation for why I said I thought they were quick, nothing to do with a conspiracy, had the buildings simply caught on fire and collapsed, and it had nothing to do with terrorists. I would still think that the clean up was fast.

3-4 months to me is quick in my opinion. And I gave you an answer to why I thought that, nothing to do with it being a conspiracy or not, but it is still a fact that they sold it off at the point they did.
You may disagree and think that its a fair amount of time and they didn't need more, which is perfectly fine, and it might very well be. I don't know, how long something like this normally take.
 
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ronki23

Well-Known Member
Maybe to get control of the area. I can sorta get Afghanistan back then, since the argument of training terrorists atleast is plausible by Taliban running the country back then (an actual terrorist group) "No idea how Afghanistan is gonna develop now that US forces has backed out, but i understand they cant babysit them for eternity either, but considering Taliban has returned back to Afghanistan in a sense after US withdrawal". But Iraq was a dictatorship so why that was targeted is beyond me

Iraq is worse off now: everyday there is fighting and bombs going off
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Meanwhile, Afghanistan is descending into civil war. Not a good legacy.
Yeah, I think it already is, that is not looking to good. And I think Taliban are going to retake control in the country again, which is probably going to trigger a new humanitarian crisis there. :(
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
With threads like this one, what beats me is how people can entertain - and spread - suspicions about a well-known event, without even bothering to do a 10 second internet search to turn up relevant expert reports that answer their doubts.

This is the laziness that political groups can exploit to get people believing all sorts of lies and fake news.

Check your facts, People! It's really not hard.
Investigating & understanding things is hard.
Believing & misunderstanding things is easy.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
To the question in the op, no. I chalk it up to lack of communication between agencies, the FBI, NSA, CIA etc, no professional courtesy at all. All the bits and pieces were there, no one connected the dots.
Dekkers owned the flight school in Florida that unwittingly trained the two men who flew airliners into the World Trade Center 11 years ago today.
Dekkers has written a book, "Guilty By Association," about his experience with Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, the two hijackers whose act of terrorism left nearly 3,000 people dead.
Flight school owner recalls 9/11 hijackers | CTV News

My daughter worked in Manhattan and will never get the image of hundreds of people running by her window looking like 'zombies' covered in ash.
I am so fed up with conspiracy theories.
Cult experts discuss alleged conspiracy theory-believing dad accused of killing kids (10news.com)
 
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