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"Do you believe in an afterlife?"

DKH

Member
(Revival of another thread not in debate Forum)
#24

Why not, please?
If one has a life today, is anybody in doubt of the tomorrow (after today), please? Right?
Have a hope, we pray one lives after-today and enjoy life! Right?

Regards
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I believe in the resurrection of the dead. However, I do not support that all who are resurrected from the dead will be given eternal life. Most will be resurrected to another physical life and taught the truth of God, which has been lacking for millenniums. Those who accept these teaching will be given eternal life, those who don't will cease to exist or never be resurrected again.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
(Revival of another thread not in debate Forum)
#24

Why not, please?
If one has a life today, is anybody in doubt of the tomorrow (after today), please? Right?
Have a hope, we pray one lives after-today and enjoy life! Right?

Regards
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I don't, because when my body/mind complex expires, living ceases. I no longer have sense-organs with which to experience life.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
#34
After life is optimistic and positive, why not to believe in it, please?
Right?
#52
Not believing in Afterlife is pessimistic and negative, why not leave it, please?
Yes, it is optimistic but is it true? I can only hope there is some life after death but so far I don't know nothing for sure. Like Stevie Wonder would say: We'll see.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Our Atheism friends, different shades of them, they plan for the coming day, week, month and years, but they don't plan for the after that, isn't it weird and contradictory of them, please? Right?

Regards
We all know that today is yesterday's tomorrow. We can have a great hope for tomorrow. After today experience is well known. Not so with after death.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Believing in an afterlife is somewhat complicated.

According to the Bible the dead will live again, so even if they are now unconscious, they will have an afterlife, or afterdeath if you want to see it that way.

Something different is to believe that something of those who die remains conscious. Some believe that this is the case, because of some kind of communication they believe they have with spirits... But, are those spirits with whom they are communicating conscious remains of dead people? It well could be something very different, because if they don't see them, other types of beings different from humans could be pretending to be them... and who could unmask them?

Think about one thing: if something from our ancestors would still be alive, don't you think that human problems would have disappeared by now? Each dead person would have helped his family to have no more problems, all of them would have agreed to solve everything and make the lives of their living relatives something pleasant. And that hasn't happened, so...

The best thing would be to investigate what God himself says, and in reality, the Bible is the only book that is so special about its origin and content, and explicitly asserting that it is inspired by God to give us accurate knowledge about certain things so, why not look for it to learn what it says about the dead and who are those spirits with whom some say to have communication?
" According to the Bible the dead will live again "

Since one belongs to JWs kindly quote from Yeshua and or Moses for the information one bases on in connection with the afterlife, please. Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
We all know that today is yesterday's tomorrow. We can have a great hope for tomorrow. After today experience is well known. Not so with after death.
Is there any harm if we do good deeds for the benefit of humanity today and also towards our G-d, it will definitely increase our happiness whilst doing today but will boost our endeavors when we wake up tomorrow doing such activities tomorrow that will further add to happiness and hope in the day after tomorrow and if we continue in all the morrows afterwards ad infinitum , please? Right?
Why we must do bad deeds, please? Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I believe in the resurrection of the dead. However, I do not support that all who are resurrected from the dead will be given eternal life. Most will be resurrected to another physical life and taught the truth of God, which has been lacking for millenniums. Those who accept these teaching will be given eternal life, those who don't will cease to exist or never be resurrected again.
What is one's basis for such believing, please?
Kindly quote the source, please. Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I don't, because when my body/mind complex expires, living ceases. I no longer have sense-organs with which to experience life.
When did human life start, how many billion years before human life started, please? Right?
There must have been some definite time when the seed/egg of human life (whatever) started, can one tell us exactly, please? Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes, it is optimistic but is it true? I can only hope there is some life after death but so far I don't know nothing for sure. Like Stevie Wonder would say: We'll see.
Isn't being optimistic enough for life or quality of life? Why must we be pessimistic and or near-dead and or dead, please?
What methodology does one adopt to find Truth, and is it true really, please???
Without a proper tool we could accomplish little to nothing, one could imagine, please. Right?

Regards
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I am of the idea that we create or own afterlife, subconsciously or otherwise. It is really up to you what happens, must just are not aware of that.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Isn't being optimistic enough for life or quality of life? Why must we be pessimistic and or near-dead and or dead, please?
What methodology does one adopt to find Truth, and is it true really, please???
Without a proper tool we could accomplish little to nothing, one could imagine, please. Right?

Regards
Death is an inevitable fact. No methodology needed. Life till death is the life that we know. Optimism is that this life is a gift and it it can be fulfilling as it is.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I am of the idea that we create or own afterlife, subconsciously or otherwise. It is really up to you what happens, must just are not aware of that.
If we do good deeds:
  1. in love of and towards service of the humanity
  2. and together in love of God and seeking more of His love/mercy,
  3. our heaven is based on these actions in afterlife apart from mercy of G-d
  4. and if we do bad deeds against what has been mentioned above
  5. we end up in hell in the afterlife and anger of our G-d
  6. why we did not avail of His mercy while we were in the world?
  7. In this sense, in other words, we create our own heaven and or our hell, I agree.
Although, as explained above, we created our own heaven or hell, and we cannot blame for doing the bad deeds, on our own free will.
It is G-d's Mercy that we will suffer or will be treated in the hell. Of course the period of suffering is always felt psychologically long.
But when we ,after the treatment, are fit enough to go to or live in heaven,
G-d's mercy will shift us there.
And the door of hell will be closed and door of heave will open for us, please.
Isn't it fair, please?
But , why go to hell and suffer the painful treatment there
when we can do good deeds and refrain from doing the evil ones, in the first place, on our own free will, please? Right?

Regards
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
When did human life start, how many billion years before human life started, please? Right?
There must have been some definite time when the seed/egg of human life (whatever) started, can one tell us exactly, please? Right?

Regards

How are these questions relevant to what I shared in this thread?

For reference...
I don't, because when my body/mind complex expires, living ceases. I no longer have sense-organs with which to experience life.
 

DKH

Member
What is one's basis for such believing, please?
Kindly quote the source, please. Right?

Regards

From the King James Bible:

Daniel 12:1-2, Ezekiel 37:1-8, Isaiah 26:19, John 5:28-29 & 11:25-26, Acts 17:31 & 24:15, 1Cor. 15:9-26, 1Thess. 4:14-18, Rev. 20:6 & 12-13 and Rev. 21:6-8.

These are only a few of the instructions related to the resurrection of the dead. Where a thorough examination of the books will bring to light many more.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
When did human life start, how many billion years before human life started, please? Right?
There must have been some definite time when the seed/egg of human life (whatever) started, can one tell us exactly, please? Right?
To add further for illustration, please.
The All-Conscious created feelings of pleasure and suffering in our bodies for the first time with evolution of life in billions of years, as He created us for the first time He could create us again and give us different bodies to feel, didn't He claim as such, please? . Right?

Regards
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21:105یَوۡمَ نَطۡوِی السَّمَآءَ کَطَیِّ السِّجِلِّ لِلۡکُتُبِ ؕ کَمَا بَدَاۡنَاۤ اَوَّلَ خَلۡقٍ نُّعِیۡدُہٗ ؕ وَعۡدًا عَلَیۡنَا ؕ اِنَّا کُنَّا فٰعِلِیۡنَ ﴿۱۰۵﴾
English - Sher Ali
Remember the day when We shall roll up the heavens like the rolling up of written scrolls by a scribe. As We began the first creation, so shall We repeat it — a promise binding upon Us; We shall certainly perform it.
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
(Revival of another thread not in debate Forum)
#24

Why not, please?
If one has a life today, is anybody in doubt of the tomorrow (after today), please? Right?
Have a hope, we pray one lives after-today and enjoy life! Right?

Regards
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Friend @stvdv has rated the above post as "winner", I am happy to note, thanks to him and love to him, please.
Yes, generally. However, I no longer care. If there is, great. If not, I’m good too.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes, generally. However, I no longer care. If there is, great. If not, I’m good too.
It is OK, one could believe something or anything with good reasons and whatever gives one satisfaction, please. Right?
One may like as to what Quran gives information in this connection:
" Belief in the Day of Judgment

After belief in One God, belief in the Day of Judgment is the most emphasized doctrine in the Quran. No other revealed book draws such a vivid picture of the Day of Judgment as does the Holy Quran. According to the Quran, on the Day of Judgment this entire universe will come to an end. Then the dead will be resurrected and accounts taken of their deeds. People with good records will be rewarded and welcomed into heaven while those with bad records will be punished and cast into hell. The concept of hell in Islam is more of a reformatory, where people will spend limited time before eventually entering heaven, which will last for ever. The Day of Judgment is referred to by many names in the Holy Quran, some of which are mentioned below:
  • yaum ad din – the Day of Judgment
  • yaum al akhir – the Last Day
  • yaum al qiyama – the Day of Resurrection
  • yaum al fast – the Day of Distinction
  • yaum al jami – the Day of Gathering
  • yaum al talaqi – the Day of the Meeting
  • as sa’at – the Hour (of Doom)
  • al qariah – the Calamity
In the Quran are given many signs of the coming of the Hour but its exact timing is known only to God. Following is a description of the Day of Judgment taken from Surah al Qariah, the 101st Chapter of the Holly Quran:

The Great Calamity; What a Great Calamity!
And what should make thee know what the Great Calamity is?
The day when men will be like scattered moths;
And mountains will be like carded wool;
Then as for him whose scales are heavy,
He will have a pleasant life.
But as for him whose scales are light,
He will have hell as his resort. (101:2-10)"
Belief in the Day of Judgment
Isn't it reason oriented, please? Right?
Regards
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I don't have the concept that this body will be in the afterlife, with death a new spirit, bestowed to one according to ones good or bad deeds, will emerge from one's present soul, and the present soul will be its 'heavenly' body. Since this heavenly body will be the same as before so it will feel like we feel now, I understand, please.
That we will have a heavenly body or form of some kind that is bestowed upon us according to our good or bad deeds is congruent with my Baha'i beliefs.

“The world beyond is as different from this world as this world is different from that of the child while still in the womb of its mother. When the soul attaineth the Presence of God, it will assume the form that best befitteth its immortality and is worthy of its celestial habitation.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 157

“The answer to the third question is this, that in the other world the human reality doth not assume a physical form, rather doth it take on a heavenly form, made up of elements of that heavenly realm.”

Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 194
 
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