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Do You Believe in Ghosts and Spirits?
- Thread starter TheScholar
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It appears this guy is serious. Whether he faked some or all of the video I can't say. If you investigate though, there are actually quite a number of these alleged ghosts/demon attacks. My personal opinion is that there is something real involved (entities in a state of hate/anger).
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Yup. He is my demon. He and I were engaged at one point. His name is Samael.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Nothing in this film but bs.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Even if ghosts/spirits were real, and solid, substantial evidence was gathered and presented, it would still be rejected without any objective examination of said evidence.
Also, even if ghosts/spirits were real, people make presumptions and preconceptions about such entities by trying to fit and confine them within the context of their religions, superstitions, folklore, etc.
Also, even if ghosts/spirits were real, people make presumptions and preconceptions about such entities by trying to fit and confine them within the context of their religions, superstitions, folklore, etc.
Rejected by whom? There is no official thinking body for all of us. We each are our own official thinking body and sufficient quality evidence can convince me that it is highly likely to exist. In fact I have no reasonable doubts by now of their existence.
There are many modern people that study, experience, perceive and communicate with such phenomena and I feel they present a quite clear picture of what is going on.
Ghosts are real.
But sometimes the cracks in the infrastructure of the surroundings can make sounds that are confused as ghost. Yes the sounds or "movie frames" are from the past but not living ghosts.
For example, a very traumatic event happens. Let us say 600 soldiers die in a cavern fighting 60,000 monsters or backward ape-like soldiers. It is a horrific battle and every last 600 golden like people know they will all die and in fact they all do.
So traumatic a battle, the emotions and power of the moment, even the mass mind, write thin, almost invisible cracks or grooves or burn shadows et all into all the surroundings.
Then decades later, hundreds of year later, thousands of years, a "needle" largely unknown moves along these cracks, or an invisible light beam unseen to human eye scan quickly over the shadows burned like frames into the surroundings as the light beam of a hidden purple color scans and crosses over the shadows.
When the needle moves across the grooves, the record plays sounds. When the purple light spans the shadows, the movie plays.
But they are not ghosts. They are just the record in time, the movie burned to the reel of time. You might think it ghosts because it was from the past.
But the ghosts might be attracted by the "TV" and come to watch. The real ones.
But sometimes the cracks in the infrastructure of the surroundings can make sounds that are confused as ghost. Yes the sounds or "movie frames" are from the past but not living ghosts.
For example, a very traumatic event happens. Let us say 600 soldiers die in a cavern fighting 60,000 monsters or backward ape-like soldiers. It is a horrific battle and every last 600 golden like people know they will all die and in fact they all do.
So traumatic a battle, the emotions and power of the moment, even the mass mind, write thin, almost invisible cracks or grooves or burn shadows et all into all the surroundings.
Then decades later, hundreds of year later, thousands of years, a "needle" largely unknown moves along these cracks, or an invisible light beam unseen to human eye scan quickly over the shadows burned like frames into the surroundings as the light beam of a hidden purple color scans and crosses over the shadows.
When the needle moves across the grooves, the record plays sounds. When the purple light spans the shadows, the movie plays.
But they are not ghosts. They are just the record in time, the movie burned to the reel of time. You might think it ghosts because it was from the past.
But the ghosts might be attracted by the "TV" and come to watch. The real ones.
There seems to be some correlation of strong magnetic fields, that or cemeteries. In the movie Intersteller with Matt Damon,
the ghost the daughter was seeing....
was interestingly the father from the future experiencing time dilation and subtly able to interact across space-time
So any idea of what really is going on?
I think you are on the right track with this 'residual ghost' phenomena. I think that is one type of ghostly phenomena and there are others.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You'll have to wait for my "tell all" book to come out.
ShadowFire
Member
A good part of my religion involves the dearly departed that left our world too soon and I have had experiences with poltergeists, non human entities, and recurring residue energies that repeat an important event before their death.
yiostheoy
Member
Until you meet one yourself, you probably won't believe in them, at least not after freshman year at college, where the only spirits are beer, wine, and vodka.
After you have met several, then you will have no doubts anymore.
In the meantime all you can do is wait and see.
yiostheoy
Member
Boy are you ever in for a big surprise.
yiostheoy
Member
The "aliens" are probably Lucifer and his Legions.
Have not had personal experience with ghosts. If I have, and sometimes I thought I had, I did my best to come up with other explanations. If I couldn't find satisfactory answer, I still remained closer to skeptic.
Like one time I was at bowling alley with friends and this building had a second floor that was a) an old gym and b) said to be haunted. After a night of bowling, we went to the upstairs with staff (waitress I think) from the alley. I think everyone present was skeptical of there being 'actual ghosts' in that location. While we were up there two odd things occurred:
1 - a basketball rolled from one side of the room toward us. The waitress knew there were balls in the location but she nor any of us could explain why it rolled toward us. To me, this was no big deal, though given that there are two items, is at least a noticeable deal.
2 - In a little side room, my friend and the waitress were talking while I was in the gym area. No door to the side room, I could see them the whole time. My friend felt ice was thrown at him. I came over to inquire about it. He said he felt something cold hit him. He and I then looked around, and there was an ice cube on the ground. From that moment on, and for next 30 minutes, I did everything possible to determine where the ice could've come from. This was an ice cube. My friend was drinking a beer (at the time), but the glass was noticeably warm. The gym was a good 80+ degrees. The pipes overhead in the small room were noticeably hot. In another back room there was an ice machine. It was unplugged and empty. Because of how highly interested I was in finding a rational explanation, I scoured that location and came up empty. To this day, I have no plausible explanation for that ice cube and why it was thrown at my friend.
I don't jump to the conclusion that it 'must have been a ghost' and do remain skeptical. But it does strike me a plausible explanation. Just not one I'm ready to suggest as the best answer.
I'm in general, skeptical of all ghost stories. But some stories that I've heard do defy explanation.
I voted yes in the poll for this thread.
Reason is pretty clear that we are Spirit/spirits. Still waiting on that objective evidence of existence of a physical universe. To not see Spirit as yourself is IMO, to not really be looking. False seeing. Spirits are us, we are them. So, such a poll is a no brainer for me. Would have to put my agnostic / ignorant cap back on to conclude otherwise.
Like one time I was at bowling alley with friends and this building had a second floor that was a) an old gym and b) said to be haunted. After a night of bowling, we went to the upstairs with staff (waitress I think) from the alley. I think everyone present was skeptical of there being 'actual ghosts' in that location. While we were up there two odd things occurred:
1 - a basketball rolled from one side of the room toward us. The waitress knew there were balls in the location but she nor any of us could explain why it rolled toward us. To me, this was no big deal, though given that there are two items, is at least a noticeable deal.
2 - In a little side room, my friend and the waitress were talking while I was in the gym area. No door to the side room, I could see them the whole time. My friend felt ice was thrown at him. I came over to inquire about it. He said he felt something cold hit him. He and I then looked around, and there was an ice cube on the ground. From that moment on, and for next 30 minutes, I did everything possible to determine where the ice could've come from. This was an ice cube. My friend was drinking a beer (at the time), but the glass was noticeably warm. The gym was a good 80+ degrees. The pipes overhead in the small room were noticeably hot. In another back room there was an ice machine. It was unplugged and empty. Because of how highly interested I was in finding a rational explanation, I scoured that location and came up empty. To this day, I have no plausible explanation for that ice cube and why it was thrown at my friend.
I don't jump to the conclusion that it 'must have been a ghost' and do remain skeptical. But it does strike me a plausible explanation. Just not one I'm ready to suggest as the best answer.
I'm in general, skeptical of all ghost stories. But some stories that I've heard do defy explanation.
I voted yes in the poll for this thread.
Reason is pretty clear that we are Spirit/spirits. Still waiting on that objective evidence of existence of a physical universe. To not see Spirit as yourself is IMO, to not really be looking. False seeing. Spirits are us, we are them. So, such a poll is a no brainer for me. Would have to put my agnostic / ignorant cap back on to conclude otherwise.
wicketkeeper
Living From the Heart.
When I was 11 my nan visited me, three months after she'd left her body. I was going through a rough period at secondary school, I was picked on by a group in another class and was sick and tired of their name calling. After my nan's visit things calmed down at school so maybe her visit was to reassure me things at school had been 'sorted'. That is my theory. I have never seen her since that visit. The experience was mind blowing ! It happened in the summer months and on a night when I found it hard to fall asleep. I was lying with my eyes open feeling frustrated when I was directed to look in the far corner of my bedroom, I looked and was pleasantly surprised to see my nan standing there ! She was smiling and had her hands clasped in front of her. A beautiful light emanated from her and lit up my bedroom.
Many years later when on the night shift I saw a lady dressed in white walk right in front of me ! It turned out that she was the building's resident ghost. Unlike my nan this lady was residual psychic energy - a ghost in other words.
My wife is a medium and whenever we go to the local spiritualist church she is plagued by inpatient spirits trying to make contact with their loved one's. My wife has met my dad who left his body in 2001 ! My dad gave told her about what I said to him in the ambulance, I hadn't told anyone about that conversation ! She has helped friends by relaying messages from their loved one's.
Many years later when on the night shift I saw a lady dressed in white walk right in front of me ! It turned out that she was the building's resident ghost. Unlike my nan this lady was residual psychic energy - a ghost in other words.
My wife is a medium and whenever we go to the local spiritualist church she is plagued by inpatient spirits trying to make contact with their loved one's. My wife has met my dad who left his body in 2001 ! My dad gave told her about what I said to him in the ambulance, I hadn't told anyone about that conversation ! She has helped friends by relaying messages from their loved one's.
Silent Screams
Member
I'm not sure if I do or not. I used to live in a home where I swear there was a ghost. Someone else saw the same "ghost" I did on various occassions too. Described it to a "t". Also, I have had friends like in the same neighborhood that I lived in before and stated that they would see ghosts or have just an odd feeling within the home.
I recently (very) had an "experience" if that's what you want to call it.
I recently (very) had an "experience" if that's what you want to call it.