Do you Believe in the Trinity?

[Rainbow Mage]

And maybe you could explain why or why not?

 

[tarasan]

And maybe you could explain why or why not?

why because its a part of my religion.... and the bible seems to support it.

 

[sandandfoam]

Yes I do.
It's a framework within which I can grasp a concept of God and self

 

[DeitySlayer]

No, because there is no evidence for it, apart from the Bible, which has been shown to be highly fallible in a number of places.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

One could argue even the Bible doesn't support it

 

[Eliot Wild]

Trinity is purely fictional.

Also, Neo, Morpheus, Tank and the rest of the Matrix cast are all made up as well.






I know, it isn't that funny. But I couldn't resist.

 

[*Anne*]

I tried. It didn't work.

I remember having a spirited (ha) discussion with a priest about it when I was 12 years old. He was very aggravated with me.

 

[no-body]

People can believe what they like as there is evidence to support either argument. But in my opinion fanatics took what is basically a zen koan from a brilliant man and turned mystical words literal. It shows how Jesus message has been perverted since the beginning.

 

[fallingblood]

The best explanation I've ever seen for the Trinity is that one can compare it to water. Water comes in three forms, liquid, gas, and solid. The Trinity is the same way as God comes in three forms, the father, son, and Holy spirit. Each have distinct personalities, but are all apart of the same.

That being said, I see no reason to believe in the Trinity. The Bible does support the idea to a point, and it became a needed doctrine when dealing with Jesus being God incarnate. But since I do not believe that Jesus is God, I can't believe the Trinity.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I agree with you falling blood, but my Anglican raising urges me to correct you on your water analogy. The best way to describe the Trinity is St. Patrick's three-leaf clover.

 

[YmirGF]

I do not believe in a literal trinity, per se, but don't quite understand why people think it is any less valid than any other "god" concept. In its context, it makes perfect sense to me. Maybe I'm slow.

 

[tarasan]

The best explanation I've ever seen for the Trinity is that one can compare it to water. Water comes in three forms, liquid, gas, and solid. The Trinity is the same way as God comes in three forms, the father, son, and Holy spirit. Each have distinct personalities, but are all apart of the same.

That being said, I see no reason to believe in the Trinity. The Bible does support the idea to a point, and it became a needed doctrine when dealing with Jesus being God incarnate. But since I do not believe that Jesus is God, I can't believe the Trinity.

thats modalism and its heresy

the trinity is always misunderstood though so dont take it bad XD

 

[Noaidi]

The best explanation I've ever seen for the Trinity is that one can compare it to water. Water comes in three forms, liquid, gas, and solid. The Trinity is the same way as God comes in three forms, the father, son, and Holy spirit. Each have distinct personalities, but are all apart of the same.

But the same drop of water can't exist in all three states at the same time. By your analogy, the father, son and holy spirit have to take it in turns to exist.

 

[tarasan]

But the same drop of water can't exist in all three states at the same time. By your analogy, the father, son and holy spirit have to take it in turns to exist.

indeed modalism, the God of three masks,

 

[Noaidi]

How do you explain the trinity, Tarasan?

 

[tarasan]

How do you explain the trinity, Tarasan?

ohhh crap there is a question!!

three distinction persons/consciouses, which co-exists in one substance/entity.

If i could be heretical for a moment and give the example of cereberus.

now cerberus has three heads with three brains so we could say that cerberus has three consciousness/persons, we could say that each head has a personality, and even a name, so for the sack of it lets call them fido, spike, and scruffy.

now because they have three consciousness they can talk to each other, argue and even do things independantly of each other, for example I could say that fido bit me.

however because fido is part of the same substance/entity as the other two it would be just as correct to say that Cereberus bit me, do you understand?

Im trying to break an analogy down into word form and I hope I succeeded. :angel2:

 

[Noaidi]

Thanks for trying, Tarasan. I understand what you are saying, but can you explain it without an analogy i.e. tell me what it actually is?
(Don't worry if you can't - it's baffled theologians and philosophers for centuries. You'll be in good company!)

 

[DeitySlayer]

ohhh crap there is a question!!

three distinction persons/consciouses, which co-exists in one substance/entity.

If i could be heretical for a moment and give the example of cereberus.

now cerberus has three heads with three brains so we could say that cerberus has three consciousness/persons, we could say that each head has a personality, and even a name, so for the sack of it lets call them fido, spike, and scruffy.

now because they have three consciousness they can talk to each other, argue and even do things independantly of each other, for example I could say that fido bit me.

however because fido is part of the same substance/entity as the other two it would be just as correct to say that Cereberus bit me, do you understand?

Im trying to break an analogy down into word form and I hope I succeeded. :angel2:

Would it thus be fair to say that this is an accurate summation of the Bible using your analogy?

Cerberus made a covenant with mankind, which mankind broke. Mankind became sinful so fido sent spike, of whom he is somehow a father despite the fact they are in the same entity, to die as a sacrifice for mankind's sins, whereupon scruffy went off to carry on the Good Word?

 

[dawny0826]

It's really the core of my faith.

 

[tarasan]

Thanks for trying, Tarasan. I understand what you are saying, but can you explain it without an analogy i.e. tell me what it actually is?
(Don't worry if you can't - it's baffled theologians and philosophers for centuries. You'll be in good company!)

it would be this

three distinction persons/consciouses, which co-exists in one substance/entity.

aka three unique seperate entities that are one,