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Do you believe in the virgin birth?
- Thread starter roger1440
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Absolutely I do.
Whiterain
Get me off of this planet
The birth of Jesus Christ was an event, it was known he was a divine child of God, yet it doesn't seem
to serve him in the bible. He builds his own reputation and he and his Mother should of been made
famous by his virgin birth, yet it seems to be an isolated event involving his immediate family.
It doesn't seem to benefit him at the crucifixion, either. The scenario of his crucifixion is enraging as well.
to serve him in the bible. He builds his own reputation and he and his Mother should of been made
famous by his virgin birth, yet it seems to be an isolated event involving his immediate family.
It doesn't seem to benefit him at the crucifixion, either. The scenario of his crucifixion is enraging as well.
Yes we do believe in the virgin birth of Jesus,
It's in the Bible, the inspired Word of God.
Ron
It's in the Bible, the inspired Word of God.
Ron
roger1440
I do stuff
Yea, she didn't even make the local tabloids. What's up with that? Maybe virgin births happen a lot over there in Bethlehem. I guess it wasn't news worthy. Only two of the 27 books in the New Testament even bother to mention it. Most of the non-canonical gospels and letters don't mention it either. The apostle Paul didn't mention the virgin birth in any of the 13 letters in the New Testament that had been attributed to him as the author. Paul was trying to make converts. A virgin birth would have been a pretty good sell. I guess it just slipped his mind. Lets face it, the guy was pretty busy. He was ship wrecked, put in jail, the locals had tried to stone him to death, etc.
james2ko
Well-Known Member
If you heard a stranger on some street corner mention he knew some guy who was born of a virgin, you would dismiss him as a looney toon. But if he performed a legitimate miracle in front of you, he would get your attention. I'm not sure if an emphasis on one miracle occurring decades earlier would have been a good sell. Instead, he focused on performing his own miracles which certainly provided the catalyst necessary to establish credibility and gain converts.
It's a definite. If He is the Son of God then it is a virgin birth. Not only that, He is God manifest in the flesh. The scriptures of the old Testament prove this beyond any doubt. The new Testament scriptures confirm this to such a high degree; that it cannot be seriously argued against with integrity. For God to come in the flesh; He must be Fathered by no man. Only God is worthy to Father God in the flesh. If God were fathered by a man then God would be put in a subordinate position to His own creation. This could not be. Jesus the Creator and Father of all came in the flesh as the Son of God. This was an intervention. God came to save Adam because Adam could not save himself.
roger1440
I do stuff
Please explain.
roger1440
I do stuff
Who is "we"?
roger1440
I do stuff
What's that mean?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Been there a couple of times.
I'd like to see those stats, and what their definition of "educated" is. Do they mean "secularized" rather than "educated"?
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That was me speaking for myself. The scriptures prove this to me beyond any doubt. That is from my own studies and revelations I have received. Now, there are some obvious ones like Isa. 9:6. A lot of people know that one.
John claimed a man can receive nothing unless it is given to him from above.
It's divine revelation that matters. You could hypothetically have every theological degree on earth and yet not have the truth; because you sought for it among mere men and didn't seek the only One who could give you the truth.
That being said, that doesn't mean there is absolutely no truth amongst theologians. Many people have received revelations. But, often discerning between truth and error is the hard part.
roger1440
I do stuff
Belief in a literal interpretation of a Bible declines as educational attainment increases. Forty-six percent of Americans with a high school education or less take the Bible literally, compared with no more than 22% of Americans with at least some college education. The majority of Americans with at least some college education believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God.
In U.S., 3 in 10 Say They Take the Bible Literally
In U.S., 3 in 10 Say They Take the Bible Literally
roger1440
I do stuff
1998: A poll of 7,441 Protestant clergy in the U.S. showed a wide variation in belief. The following ministers did not believe in the virgin birth:
Guest Post: Rev. Kent Wartick on The Virgin Birth | J.W. Wartick -"Always Have a Reason"
- American Lutherans- 19%
- American Baptists- 34%
- Episcopalians- 44%
- Presbyterians- 49%
- Methodists- 60%
Guest Post: Rev. Kent Wartick on The Virgin Birth | J.W. Wartick -"Always Have a Reason"
roger1440
I do stuff
A poll out today from public theology think tank Theos has found that more than a third of Britons believe that the virgin birth really happened.
In the poll carried out by ComRes on behalf of Theos, 34 per cent of people agreed that the statement Jesus was born to a virgin called Mary was historically accurate, while only 32 per cent said they believed it was fictional.
Women were more likely to believe in the virgin birth (39 per cent), compared to 29 per cent of men, and respondents were more likely to believe in the virgin birth than the appearance of the angels to the shepherds announcing Jesus birth. Only 28 per cent agreed that really happened.
The survey of 1,005 British adults also found that Jesus birth remains an important event culturally and personally. While 52 per cent agreed or strongly agreed that the birth of Jesus was significant, 72 per cent of people agreed that the birth of Jesus remained significant culturally.
One in three believe in virgin birth | Christian News on Christian Today
In the poll carried out by ComRes on behalf of Theos, 34 per cent of people agreed that the statement Jesus was born to a virgin called Mary was historically accurate, while only 32 per cent said they believed it was fictional.
Women were more likely to believe in the virgin birth (39 per cent), compared to 29 per cent of men, and respondents were more likely to believe in the virgin birth than the appearance of the angels to the shepherds announcing Jesus birth. Only 28 per cent agreed that really happened.
The survey of 1,005 British adults also found that Jesus birth remains an important event culturally and personally. While 52 per cent agreed or strongly agreed that the birth of Jesus was significant, 72 per cent of people agreed that the birth of Jesus remained significant culturally.
One in three believe in virgin birth | Christian News on Christian Today