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Do you believe in the virgin birth?

Do you believe in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ?


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roger1440

I do stuff
American Bible Society releases in-depth findings from its annual State of the Bible survey.

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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Actually the word used in Hebrew as found in Isaiah does not mean "virgin" but "young maiden".
 

Norrin-6-

Member
Umm yeah... I'm not a believer in the virgin birth.

I admit this is mostly based on what I'd consider to be common sense, and not arrived at through diligent study of the Bible. That isn't to say I haven't studied this at all. As metis mentioned, the verse in Isaiah uses the word almah I think, which means young maiden. There's a bit of an imbalance there with that and what we find in the New Testament pertaining to the virgin birth. The later synoptic gospels clearly indicate that Mary was a virgin, but it's something we don't see in the gospel of Mark. So I mean, you can either believe that Mark left out something important or that the virgin birth was arrived at later. I don't think the author of Mark left anything important out of his gospel. That's my opinion, as I think it's the most reliable gospel about the historical Jesus, including his birth. But everyone sees things a little bit differently than the next guy/girl. If you believe the bible is an inspired text for example, you're definitely going to disagree with me a lot of the time because, well, I don't.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Yes, I certainly do. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother calling myself a Catholic as that's one of the basic points of the Catholic faith.
 

chlotilde

Madame Curie
Asexual procreation does happen in our world with many life forms (i.e., prokaryotes). Some the worlds earliest thinkers (read: scholars from hundreds of years ago) probably used a virgin birth as a basis for examining these unicellular entities and eventually studying those creatures of parthenogenesis (ya know, the hermaphrodites). All knowledge has both its sources and reasons (iow we are not born in vacuum).

The specific belief of believing in a human accomplishing such a fact is, at present, supernatural (super as in greater than, hence greater than our knowledge of nature allows for), and so, one's belief in a such an event would be based on faith alone. If man succeeds in proving his beliefs, then one day, it will make sense to today's unbelievers. Even today, there are scientific studies of mammals showing a male is not necessary for reproduction (in mice).

So...is it possible...from what we know and continue to study...yeah maybe, but it may take faith to believe it. So, yes I believe. And one day atheists will say be saying, it wasn't some miracle of God that gave a virgin birth, but rather some "medical" condition Mary must have had. Such is "the chicken or egg" dilema of knowledge.
 

Clarity

Active Member
If you can bring yourself to believe in the existence of God, how is believing in a virgin birth so difficult?

Playing devils advocate:

YES!! He made the heavens and the earth,
YES!! He grandly and heroically lead the Israelites out of Egypt.
YES!! Jesus is raised.

Er, virgin birth? That's pushing it...
 
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