Do you believe Jesus existed?

[Bishka]

And perhaps the Daoine Sidhe were at one point real faerie folk and the Unicorn at one point a very horny horse. Perhaps Durga/Parvati was originally a female arm-wrestler, and Pan - well, let's not speculate on Pan.

And, beckysoup61, what does it mean to say "I believe most ... truths, etc., were all usually based in truth"?

Is self-decepton and delusion likewise "usually based in truth"?

That's my belief, not yours, you don't have to believe that it is true.

I believe most ideas, beliefs, etc. were based in truth -- at one time or another. It's just that, don't make something out of it, that it isn't. I believe that Ganesh, may have been a holy man, a prophet perhaps, but that he was never a god, and that through time things got changed and misheard, and just screwed up.

And if it's so hard to believe, you don't have to.

Perhpas they were, and perhaps they weren't, I can't speculate on every single myth and idea out there, because I do not know them all. some I do believe were made up just out of the blue to explain something, and some, may have been real at one point and time, but just not in the context we know them now.

 

[Arrow]

Do not all things have some basis of truth in them?

 

[Booko]

How about Father Christmas the Tooth fairy or the heroes of Greek mythology,
are they based on FACT?

Ever hear of St. Nicholas? sheesh

a story is told and each person and each generation add their little bit and the story gets bigger and better,
how about Robin Hood, there is no evidence the man ever existed but his story is known by millions of people, the same with King Arthur, no evidence at all, then add the word God and you have a whole new ball game.

You may be behind the times. Check up on the history of Arturius, who was hanging about after the Romans left.

 

[ginger]

You may be behind the times. Check up on the history of Arturius, who was hanging about after the Romans left.

You have been watching too many movies.

 

[Booko]

You have been watching too many movies.

Thanks for your interesting and informative evidence about the incorrect conclusions drawn by others who've looked into the question.

You assume too much about where I got the info I briefly mentioned.

Clive Owen may be a good actor, but is not relevant to the topic.

 

[ginger]

Thanks for your interesting and informative evidence about the incorrect conclusions drawn by others who've looked into the question.

You assume too much about where I got the info I briefly mentioned.

Clive Owen may be a good actor, but is not relevant to the topic.

You will be telling me next the Americans captured the Enigma machine from the German submarine.

 

[Booko]

You will be telling me next the Americans captured the Enigma machine from the German submarine.

I was once a treehouse. I lived in a cake.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I believe most ideas, beliefs, etc. were based in truth -- at one time or another.

I do not doubt that this is your belief. The problem is that your statement can mean virtually anything. Were Pixies and Minotaurs and mermaids "based in truth"? Was there an historcal Thor or Neptune or Baal or Kali?

 

[Bishka]

I do not doubt that this is your belief. The problem is that your statement can mean virtually anything. Were Pixies and Minotaurs and mermaids "based in truth"? Was there an historcal Thor or Neptune or Baal or Kali?

And I said, it depends -- I believe that pixies could have been highly overeaggerated, but yes, once they could have had a basis in real people, possibly mermaids even too.

It just depends for me, it's not an all or nothing, I need to research the topic throughly before I start making assumptions for myself.

 

[Halcyon]

Please, Halcyon, that was simply disingenuous. You know very well that

rejecting historicity just "because Jesus was deified"​

is an entirely different argument than is

rejecting historicity just "because of the mythological similarities to Osiris/Dionysus"​

At least I hope you do.

I guess i don't. I don't think i'm in the habit of being disingenuous.

Would you mind explaining the difference then, between rejecting the historical Jesus because his life has had Osiris/Dionysus elements incorporated into it thus deifying him, and deifying the historical Jesus through the incorporation of Osiris/Dionysus mythology?