Do you believe Moses parted the Red Sea?

[James Barnes]

I'll rephrase the question. Did God part the red sea for the ancient Israelites to part?

Yes Moses did nothing.

I wouldn't say Moche did nothing. He was chosen and very much needed as a messenger.

 

[Native]

"Parting the sea" is a mythical description which derives from the Story of Creation, where "the heavens" and the celestial Milky Way River were parted in two Earth hemispheres.

 

[Thief]

I find this story totally moronic and an insult to god.

So as we read it, god is powerful enough to bring on the plagues of Egypt, to part the red sea and to murder hundreds of innocent Egyptian children when he could have simply killed Rameses and the Egyptian slavers?

This story describes someone that is petty, vengeful, hateful and dramatic, not the god I know..

and the God you know is that of Moses?...Abraham?....Jesus?.....Muhammad?

 

[ChrisD]

No. Many of these myths about magic and miracles are how primitive man interpreted things.

 

[Gilberto Alicea]

No,God did everything that was done back then was by the hand of God not Moses .

 

[Kirby D. P.]

The only place Moses parted the Red Sea OR the Sea of Reeds is in the fairytale about him. There is zero archeological, historical, genealogical or geological evidence that Jews were ever enslaved en masse in Egypt, that they were ever liberated therefrom, or that any large non-Sinai population ever camped for 40 years in the region. By their very nature, the events described in Exodus would have generated VAST amounts of all four of the foregoing types of evidence. The Bible cannot be accepted as primary source historical evidence as the oldest surviving manuscript of Exodus dates to around 250 BC, but the events are supposed to have occurred over 1,000 years before that. Hence, the Bible itself can only be held as inferentially or circumstantially evident regarding the events -- such as how the Illiad led to the discovery of an actual city roughly equivalent to legendary Troy. The old chestnut that at the center of every legend or myth there must be some kernel of fact is not true. The Exodus is such a case.

 

[metis]

Yes, I was referring to Heaven among other things.


No, it's not moot. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant when trying to figure out the author's intent.

And even if you might think that a promise of a literal Heaven is doomed to be broken, this doesn't mean that the promise wasn't made.


That's right: a promise of literal Heaven would be broken if Heaven doesn't literally exist and might be fulfilled if it does literally exist. Either way, we would interpret the meaning of it very differently from a metaphorical promise that can't be literally broken or fulfilled at all.

One doesn't have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in some sort of afterlife. He wasn't the first to teach it nor the last. Because of this, if one wants to believe that mere belief about the nature of Jesus grants them heaven, that's clearly their choice. To me, that makes no sense, and I held this same position when I used to be a Christian, btw.

What's far more important, imo, is that most of these religions pretty much teach about love of neighbor and doing justice, so obviously any one particular religious figure does not stand alone on this.

 

[Thief]

The only place Moses parted the Red Sea OR the Sea of Reeds is in the fairytale about him. There is zero archeological, historical, genealogical or geological evidence that Jews were ever enslaved en masse in Egypt, that they were ever liberated therefrom, or that any large non-Sinai population ever camped for 40 years in the region. By their very nature, the events described in Exodus would have generated VAST amounts of all four of the foregoing types of evidence. The Bible cannot be accepted as primary source historical evidence as the oldest surviving manuscript of Exodus dates to around 250 BC, but the events are supposed to have occurred over 1,000 years before that. Hence, the Bible itself can only be held as inferentially or circumstantially evident regarding the events -- such as how the Illiad led to the discovery of an actual city roughly equivalent to legendary Troy. The old chestnut that at the center of every legend or myth there must be some kernel of fact is not true. The Exodus is such a case.

I disagree.....
no matter the extent of the event.....no physical evidence would have survived.
all we have are the stories handed down....verbal or written.

insisting on physical evidence is futile
and shallow

as I mentioned before....
the is great remembrance of Moses

tradition and dogma may seem unsupported.....but....
they carry belief through many generations

 

[Shad]

I disagree.....
no matter the extent of the event.....no physical evidence would have survived.
all we have are the stories handed down....verbal or written.

Yet there is evidence against the conquest narrative directly after the Exodus narrative, namely the evidence against the chronology about the destruction and capture of many settlements. We have evidence of other Canaanites within Egypt, Hyksos.

insisting on physical evidence is futile
and shallow

Pure ignorance based upon your own ignorance of the subject at hand.

 

[Nietzsche]

Parting the Red Sea would be impressive. Parting the Reed sea is much, much less so. In fact it does that on its own.

 

[Demonslayer]

No. Many of these myths about magic and miracles are how primitive man interpreted things.

There are a lot of primitive types that still believe things like this today, unfortunately.

 

[Demonslayer]

Oh my god I forgot about the stick, that rotten stick.

That stick controls God's actions! Best. Stick. Ever.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

One doesn't have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in some sort of afterlife. He wasn't the first to teach it nor the last. Because of this, if one wants to believe that mere belief about the nature of Jesus grants them heaven, that's clearly their choice. To me, that makes no sense, and I held this same position when I used to be a Christian, btw.

What's far more important, imo, is that most of these religions pretty much teach about love of neighbor and doing justice, so obviously any one particular religious figure does not stand alone on this.

I give up. It's like you're only reading every other word of my posts.

 

[metis]

I give up. It's like you're only reading every other word of my posts.

Sorry if I'm misinterpreting what you're driving at-- communication is not a perfect medium. I admitted one mistaken interpretation that I had that dealt with the issue of heaven, and I corrected it. Also, I have made my point clear, basically it's not the man so much as the message, and if anyone believes differently, that's clearly their choice-- I never disputed that.

Actually, even last night with our discussion, I was having trouble figuring out what you were really trying to say, and this was reinforced earlier today and even now.

So, yes, I agree-- let's just drop the subject because we ain't connecting.

 

[Thief]

Yet there is evidence against the conquest narrative directly after the Exodus narrative, namely the evidence against the chronology about the destruction and capture of many settlements. We have evidence of other Canaanites within Egypt, Hyksos.



Pure ignorance based upon your own ignorance of the subject at hand.

there is a large population on this earth that will not be convinced their beliefs are shallow

your evidence is tangible?

 

[neologist]

Jehovah, actually

Nope. G-d did it. E x o 14:21.

 

[Akivah]

That stick controls God's actions! Best. Stick. Ever.

They just found a stick in the latest episode of Grimm. It might be the same one.

 

[neologist]

Did god parted the red sea through moses?

If not, why was Moses necessary to part it? .

Simple.
Moses was appointed by Jehovah as his visible representative. Otherwise, who would speak to Pharoah?

 

[Akivah]

Jehovah, actually

Who?? Never heard of 'im.

 

[neologist]

Jehovah, actually

Who?? Never heard of 'im.

Sorry to hear that. But that would no likely be explained by the inexplicable Hebrew superstition against vocalizing God's name which appears over 6000 times in the Hebrew bible.