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Do you consider Romans 9:21-23 to be the ultimate strategic weapon?

Hyksos

New Member
Romans 9:21-23 - God as Creator is entitled to destroy any part of the creation, or destroy whomever He choose, and as many people as He will see fit on the day of judgement; and this biblical verse is like the "red" button to start a full-scale nuclear war?

And this Biblical verse takes precedence over Christian ethics and morality; which means the person who has such power cannot be tied, constrained or bound by such moral rules?

God can destroy whomever He choose, and as many people as He will without any need for justification about His sovereign power/right over the creation.

For since the foundation of the world, God has preordained certain individuals to be destroyed on the day of judgement. (Revelation 13:8).

Like it or not, there's nothing you can do about it...

For who is able to resist God's will? (Romans 9:19).

PS. Isaiah 46:11 - Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man of My purpose from a far country. Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass. I have planned it, surely I will do it.
 
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Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
No. If God has already arbitrarily damned certain people to Hell, then He lies when He says that He loves the world and wishes to save us.

Matthew 18:14 So it is not the will of my[e] Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

1 Timothy 2:4-6
This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man[a] Christ Jesus,6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

A piece of pottery, when made by the potter, is not automatically honorable or dishonorable when first produced. But when the potter sells his wares, then the piece of pottery is made by others to be either honorable or dishonorable. A pot can either be used as a small flower vase or a spitoon, another can be used either as a chamber pot or a pot to fill a bath. It isn't the potter's fault what his wares turn out to be vessels of, but it depends only on the circumstances that we choose to fall into--either righteousness or dishonor.
 

Word

With all longsuffering
A piece of pottery, when made by the potter, is not automatically honorable or dishonorable when first produced. But when the potter sells his wares, then the piece of pottery is made by others to be either honorable or dishonorable. A pot can either be used as a small flower vase or a spitoon, another can be used either as a chamber pot or a pot to fill a bath. It isn't the potter's fault what his wares turn out to be vessels of, but it depends only on the circumstances that we choose to fall into--either righteousness or dishonor.

You disagree with the Bible then.

But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also [utensils] of wood and earthenware, and some for honorable and noble [use] and some for menial and ignoble [use]. 2 Timothy 2:20



Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same mass (lump) one vessel for beauty and distinction and honorable use, and another for menial or ignoble and dishonorable use? Romans 9:21
 
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