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do you fit in?

are you going to stay?

  • once in...it's forever

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • gotta becareful to walk in grace

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • not going to make it

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Total voters
    7

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
and yet you followed your first line with several others
as if you have inside information

and we have hierarchy in this life......a term
I suspect Greater Hierarchy in the next life......on Their terms

and it is likely we end up alongside others.....that think and feel as we do

How else to be happy?
How else to be fair?

Hi,
Since we have two very different world views, it's good to return to basics.
Let us assume that you are right in that you would probably don't get along with the people of heaven.
And let us assume-and this assumption is clearly against my certainties- that God cannot solve this issue.

In that case wouldn't it be better for you to remain in Heaven as the odd Duck, that being burnt in Hellfire with those who you can easily get along with?!
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
same debate.....different terms

so.....you get both feet into heaven
and then someone makes an objection

have you considered that possibility?

Not trying to be funny or smug here, but my honest answer is no, and I don't feel it is something to worry about either
 

syo

Well-Known Member
same debate.....different terms

so.....you get both feet into heaven
and then someone makes an objection

have you considered that possibility?
this is exactly the reason why i don't believe in heaven and hell of christianity. i may be a very virtuous person and once i may have harmed an innocent man. do i get to heaven??? logicaly NO.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
this is exactly the reason why i don't believe in heaven and hell of christianity. i may be a very virtuous person and once i may have harmed an innocent man. do i get to heaven??? logicaly NO.
so...Moses didn't make it to heaven?
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
incorrect assumption

I might need to learn the language
the territory
and the scheme of things

but I have no dogma to be removed

I suspect I will do …..ok

It seems i had some misunderstandings of some of what you wrote in this thread.
Good luck
 

syo

Well-Known Member
so...Moses didn't make it to heaven?
I admit I don't know the story of Moses well. But my belief is that noone is pure evil and pure good. We are torn between heaven and hell, so where do we go???
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I admit I don't know the story of Moses well. But my belief is that noone is pure evil and pure good. We are torn between heaven and hell, so where do we go???
we end up alongside others that think and feel as we do

how else to be happy?
how else to be fair?
 
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