Do you have faith in Fate?

[BenTheBeliever]

I believe God moves with us in a linear fashion.
no fun knowing what next will happen

predictability is not pre-destiny.

that you have an inclination....isn't concrete

I like to know what happens next. When you been through the ringer a lot it is nice to know things are already planned out

 

[Aupmanyav]

I think chaos will get in the way of your faith

Chaos has its own order.

Barnsley fern

 

[Thief]

I like to know what happens next. When you been through the ringer a lot it is nice to know things are already planned out

even to a bitter end?

 

[BenTheBeliever]

even to a bitter end?

Yes. But that is me.

 

[Thief]

Chaos has its own order.

Barnsley fern

and I agree...
on this one point my belief is as yours
(but there is no calculation for the flight of a dandelion seed
only the certainty there will be more of them)

 

[Aupmanyav]

You would probably need a computer a billion times more powerful than what is available to do that. There is always a reason that the seed first moves right and then left, though we may not know it. The only thing without reason is existence of God.

 

[Thief]

You would probably need a computer a billion times more powerful than what is available to do that. There is always a reason that the seed first moves right and then left, though we may not know it. The only thing without reason is existence of God.

there is no reason for dandelions.
and there is no thought to the 'will' of the wind.

many seeds just fail

no reason

 

[Aupmanyav]

Check Wikipedia or a botany book, you will find the reasons. There are - always.

 

[Thief]

Check Wikipedia or a botany book, you will find the reasons. There are - always.

no need....
I don't confuse reason for cause.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Like it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Gǣð ā Wyrd swā hīo sceal.
Goeth ay Wyrd so She shall.

Fate is unchanging determinism. Destiny is something we have total control over.

Wyrd is somewhere in the middle.

Imagine all things as a giant Web. All things are interconnected in this Web ever being woven. But though may strands are already woven, they can be cut or redirected. The proper techniques might even influence Weaver's ongoing craft without her noticing.

That's pretty much how I understand it, too. The Moirai are really the same as the Norns, anyway.

 

[Whiterain]

I consider it a phenomenon like Deja Vu... So many coincidences I have to question if greater powers are pulling the strings, like the Norns.

I must have upset them at some point, my destiny, my existence, has been rather full of carnage and woe out of my control.

I mean there's my dilemma with the gods and then it seems like there's an even higher power at work... Just so many coincidences and all... I'm sure it's in a diagnosis somewhere. We've got to dumb down the cosmos for the next generation of youngn's.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

What does faith mean to you, and what does fate mean? Do you have faith in fate?

I don't find either of these to be useful or meaningful ideas.

 

[Willamena]

I don't find either of these to be useful or meaningful ideas.

Consider it a trick question.

 

[Whiterain]

I mean coincidence is just a coping mechanism after a while.... They've got me baffled... It's not danger or anything. Not trying to get to serious, it's just baffling, leave people to their ignorance?


That karma thing, a thugs fate, people just get judgmental. If I'm out hiking the town tonight and some kid or fool blasts me with his 9milli, it's not fate, I'm just a moron. People are animals here.

The economy is bad, destitution, vagrants wander the streets... All you hear is the cackling laughter of the city government here, it's all inside. CESSPOOL.


I ain't about to get holy ghosted though.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Since I'm Muslim, faith means believing in God, His angels, His books, His messengers, the judgement day, and fate with its good and bad outcomes.

Believing in fate is already part of my faith. In my beliefs, not believing in fate and accepting its good and bad outcomes means I don't have faith which renders me a non believer. Complaining about faith includes anger on what it gives, giving up on life, and showing disapproval to God's decisions. This means that committing suicide is included. Those however do not necessarily mean voiding the belief. What voids the belief is going to the extreme with causing rejecting the belief in fate by heart.