Do you have free will or not?

[allfoak]

you reap what you sow...

Karma......

We make choices that engage laws that must then play out on the game board of life.
These choices are made both good and bad and return with the same intent with which they were made.

Making wise choices is advisable.

Proverbs 2:11
Wise choices will watch over you.
Understanding will keep you safe.
New Living Translation (NLT)

 

[TashaN]

It's only clear if God does not know your future actions, other than that it's a conflict.

Is this even an argument? try to come up with one then let me know please. Just simply saying you disagree and it doesn't fit to what you believe to be true doesn't make your argument valid.

Good luck with that!

 

[idea]

Knowing something, and causing it are two different things.
Free will can exist, even if the future is set in stone.
Free will is about who determines the future, not if it is deterministic.

Of course there are some people who have free will (and other sheeple who have become addicted etc. and no longer possess it)

 

[Paranoid Android]

Here's a question to Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Do you believe you have a free will or do you believe that your life is already predestined?

Also further on that question, do you believe God already knows the outcome of your choices.

Yes, we have free will. That is why were responsible for the choices we make. After Rage, the child of Adam and Eve made a deal with Satan, ALL Squares became bond servants of Satan. You could get free, but the Order was forms by Rage, and that secret organizations works through other organizations to rule the Earth. You follow masters you don't know and further the cycle of violence and war.
The Order is formed for one purpose and one purpose only; To rule the Earth. That's why we don't have any members of Congress or the Senate that are disabled. We can't be said to be part of democracy if we have no representatives.

 

[JustWondering]

Everything that exists today, and everything that happens is a result of previous events. Who we are, the circumstances that influence our decisions on anything, already established by previous events. What's going to happen is going to happen. Cause and effect. Free will is an illusion.

 

[leibowde84]

I believe in both, free will and previously decided destiny. And yes, I believe God already knows everything, including the outcome of my choices.

How can both be true? That seems to be counter-intuitive. Can you elaborate?

 

[Smart_Guy]

How can both be true? That seems to be counter-intuitive. Can you elaborate?

This thread was in a DIR where only sharing views or answering questions were allowed while debates were not and I posted that only because of that. I know it sounds conflicting, but in my mind I I don't see it so. I still did give some explanations in the first page tho.

Sorry man, I'm not that good in explaining my beliefs. My explanations in the first page are even admittedly screwed up!

 

[leibowde84]

This thread was in a DIR where only sharing views or answering questions were allowed while debates were not and I posted that only because of that. I know it sounds conflicting, but in my mind I I don't see it so. I still did give some explanations in the first page tho.

Sorry man, I'm not that good in explaining my beliefs. My explanations in the first page are even admittedly screwed up!

No worries, my friend. I am honestly curious to understand how you think, as you are one of the posters on this site that shares truly valuable insight. But, this is not a DIR thread. I'll take a look at your comments on page 1 though.

 

[Smart_Guy]

No worries, my friend. I am honestly curious to understand how you think, as you are one of the posters on this site that shares truly valuable insight. But, this is not a DIR thread. I'll take a look at your comments on page 1 though.

Yeah, moving the thread from a DIR to a debate section was after I posted all of those. I wanted to delete my posts, but they were quoted already. I'd love to talk to you about it, but I'm not good at explaining my beliefs, as I said. This one specifically is too complicated.
Thank you for your understanding

 

[outhouse]

Yes, I have free will... to a point. For example; I can't fly like a bird, even if so choose.

Your example is non sequitur to free will.

If you went to a cliff you could fly once.

 

[idav]

We have free will to do a or b. To god both a and b exist but not to us. So gods free to do a and b, but we are limited to one or the other cause we aren't God per se, but the potential is there, which is all that's needed for free will, the potential to do other than determined via hard determinism.

 

[leibowde84]

Yeah, moving the thread from a DIR to a debate section was after I posted all of those. I wanted to delete my posts, but they were quoted already. I'd love to talk to you about it, but I'm not good at explaining my beliefs, as I said. This one specifically is too complicated.
Thank you for your understanding

No, buddy, thank you for your understanding. My inquisitive nature can sometimes come on a bit strong.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

Deciding if i go to bed at 10pm or midnight is not free will imho

 

[Zardoz]

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If you went to a cliff you could fly once.

It would be falling... with style...