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Do You Judge People For Who They Are or For What They Believe?

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
My questions of the day. :)

Do you judge people by who they are? Do you sometimes judge them by their beliefs or lack of beliefs? Do you automatically decide what a person is like just because of their faith or lack of faith? Do you judge them by various different things, such as ethnic group, political party, age, etc?

Do you expect people to act a certain way before you get to know or even meet them when you hear that they follow or are any of the above?

Any discussion is welcome. And keep the jokes to a minimum, please. ;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Mostly for what they do.
But what the believe is complicated.
Never does it boil down simply to a label.
Example:
If someone says he's a Xian, that tells me next to nothing about him.

Btw, how many Xians does it take to screw in a......never mind.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I do judge them according to this yes. As usually I can get a feel for how they will behave normally.

Also may I say that you behave NOTHING like what I expect from a Christian online :D. I can think of 1 other exception as well :yes:.

I would not say I particularly judge them as I judge nobody but I do male calculations and string together the possibilities of behavior before proceeding to socialize. I am not overly social so I must do such things a lot in life.

I myself admit to be a biracial black person who grew up in a black neighborhood and is incapable of getting along with other blacks. Seriously. My best friends have been Cambodian, Chinese and sometimes Japanese. Only had 1 semi-black friend and she was biracial like myself. I usually do judge race unlike common perception and I do so amongst parties of either of my own 2 races.

Things such as age are irrelevant truly as I have encountered childish individuals of ages 60+ who have the mentality and wisdom of 2 chopsticks in water.

But for me I would say political affiliation means more as it concerns your primary outlook towards life in general more so then religion although I place religion as second.


I must say though that when I meet people who break all stereotypes and expectations from me it makes them more interesting. If you break 4 expectations you are 4 times that much more greater to me :).
 
If someone tells me he/she believes that the fate of the universe is to be eaten by his/her cat and reincarnated into a lobster, then yes I will judge him/her for his/her belief.

As for ethnic groups, I'm sure I do on a subconscious level. Especially since I grew up in Memphis were racial violence was high.

Age: Reasonably

Political Party: Depends on who they're endorsing.
 
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Me Myself

Back to my username
I judge people by their beliefs, actions and emotions.

Of course I judge them by their beliefs they are an important part of who a person is.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
My questions of the day. :)

Do you judge people by who they are? Do you sometimes judge them by their beliefs or lack of beliefs? Do you automatically decide what a person is like just because of their faith or lack of faith? Do you judge them by various different things, such as ethnic group, political party, age, etc?

Do you expect people to act a certain way before you get to know or even meet them when you hear that they follow or are any of the above?
. ;)

I do not draw conclusions about people. I have a neighbor who is a talker. When she meets someone, even for the first time, it's talk talk talk talk talk. OMG. I do not know that anyone likes her but I do. It so happens that she is not like that when it's just us two on an outing or when there is a party. I think what it is is nervous chatter. She gets nervous easily and when she does she is hard to be around. When she is not nervous she is nice to be around.

On the other hand I do form an opinion about some people because of their belief, but not because of who they are.

Some people are their belief, so it would be me forming an opinion about them for their belief because a certain type of person defines his or her self by their belief. It is who they are. And it is me drawing a conclusion about them because they are all the same, more or less.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I judge people after a series of interactions. Not after one event or because of one belief. I always give people a second and third try.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm ashamed to say that I do judge people on externals.

My questions of the day. :)

Do you judge people by who they are?
Ashamedly, yes. My rather low class ex-con s-i-l is living with an ex-con she met in jail. I personally prefer not to have anything to do with them because they are always in some sort of trouble. Guilt by association. My late father-in-law used to say "show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are".

Do you sometimes judge them by their beliefs or lack of beliefs? Do you automatically decide what a person is like just because of their faith or lack of faith?

Yes, especially when the "C-word" comes up... Christian. Especially "born again Christian", and "bible study". Let's not forget "bible study". I freely admit that I mentally :facepalm: and :rolleyes: at these commercials:

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Christian Mingle Commercial with Lori and Curtis - April 23, 2013 - YouTube

Do you judge them by various different things, such as ethnic group, political party, age, etc?

Ethnic group, no; age, no; political party, yes. I am gun-shy of Republicans.

Do you expect people to act a certain way before you get to know or even meet them when you hear that they follow or are any of the above?

Preconceived notions? I try to suppress them and keep an open mind. Some days are harder than others.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Judge is probably too harsh a word. I do judge people (hopefully fairly...I'm pretty reasonable) but try not to do this on initial impressions too much, and certain not on pre-conceptions.
But I would suppose I have pre-conceptions of what someone might be like based on labels. I just try to be honest enough with myself I realise the actual person in front of me needs to be judged on their merits and not my pre-conceptions.

In terms of beliefs and actions I would say actions, but truly held beliefs inform action. The trick part is that what someone truly believes is not always the same as their stated beliefs.

I spend a lot of time trying to understand peoples motivations for what they say and do. I'd see it that way, rather than belief, per se.
 

Me Myself

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Judge is probably too harsh a word. I do judge people (hopefully fairly...I'm pretty reasonable) but try not to do this on initial impressions too much, and certain not on pre-conceptions.
But I would suppose I have pre-conceptions of what someone might be like based on labels. I just try to be honest enough with myself I realise the actual person in front of me needs to be judged on their merits and not my pre-conceptions.

In terms of beliefs and actions I would say actions, but truly held beliefs inform action. The trick part is that what someone truly believes is not always the same as their stated beliefs.

I spend a lot of time trying to understand peoples motivations for what they say and do. I'd see it that way, rather than belief, per se.

some semantics aside I do agree with all of it in general.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think what people are are things about their selves that they cannot change or that they cannot change in a short time (like education). Things like ethnicity, the color of the skin, nationality, socioeconomic status, sexual preference, ect. are what people are. I do not judge people for things like these.

I think I do draw conclusions about people for their beliefs such as on RF. But I think sometimes when people do that they are very wrong. Knowing others are wrong is knowing I can be wrong too so I do not lean on my conclusions about anything except when it is proved over and over again that the response is always the same, then I can't help drawing conclusions, can you? A conclusion is the end. I have never decided anyone's end in relation to myself. I think it's not nice.
 

Me Myself

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The thing is that judging someone by one single belief is not going to be accurate. Judging someone by a wide arrange of systems of beliefs will be far more accurate, judging him by this in attachment to how they have affected hir actions is going to be more accurate, and how s/he feels about hir actions and beliefs is going to be even more so accurate.

In general, the more you take into consideration, the close you will be to "who" s/he is.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The thing is that judging someone by one single belief is not going to be accurate. Judging someone by a wide arrange of systems of beliefs will be far more accurate, judging him by this in attachment to how they have affected hir actions is going to be more accurate, and how s/he feels about hir actions and beliefs is going to be even more so accurate.

In general, the more you take into consideration, the close you will be to "who" s/he is.

I don't even know myself. How rude it is imo when someone that is not me thinks they know me. I understand "judge" to mean whether or not the person has anything interesting to contribute to myself or not. Will I try to get to know the person, or not? Am I interesting in what the person has to say, or not? I will pray for anyone, how can I judge? No one is more or less worthy. Do I like the person? I like most people. Can I stand the person for long? There aren't many people like that.
 

Me Myself

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I don't even know myself. How rude it is imo when someone that is not me thinks they know me. I understand "judge" to mean whether or not the person has anything interesting to contribute to myself or not. Will I try to get to know the person, or not? Am I interesting in what the person has to say, or not? I will pray for anyone, how can I judge? No one is more or less worthy. Do I like the person? I like most people. Can I stand the person for long? There aren't many people like that.

I never said you can fully know anyone.

And you judge, you cant choose not to judge unless you want to fall yourself in some comma.

The only thing you can do is try your best to be as accurte as you can be, and as Jesus said, to e GOOD judging YOURSELF so that you can accurately judge others.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I "judge" people based on both what they believe and what they act. Chances are that if you know someone's religion when you're first getting to know them they are rather invested. You won't identify someone as Christian if they never go to church, pray, don't believe in god, at most you'll know simply that they used to be Christian. Our beliefs, the one's we hold or even were only raised with greatly affect us as individuals. Our views of the world, ourselves, our relationships, etc. The politically correct idea of ignoring people's beliefs is nonsense.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I never said you can fully know anyone.

And you judge, you cant choose not to judge unless you want to fall yourself in some comma.

The only thing you can do is try your best to be as accurte as you can be, and as Jesus said, to e GOOD judging YOURSELF so that you can accurately judge others.

Yes, I cannot choose never to form opinions of anyone. I am thinking of the other definition of it which is to draw conclusions. Which , I believe, can be called the end of a matter. That's the definition of "conclude". To be slapping your notion of me on me as the end of the matter is the oposite of meek, isn't it?

I understand that likes and dislikes cause others to draw near or push away. That is preference and should not be caused by concluding anything about anyone. The difference I'm talking about is in the one making the decision and not about the one who is being "judged". Whatever.
 

Me Myself

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Yes, I cannot choose never to form opinions of anyone. I am thinking of the other definition of it which is to draw conclusions. Which , I believe, can be called the end of a matter. That's the definition of "conclude". To be slapping your notion of me on me as the end of the matter is the oposite of meek, isn't it?

I understand that likes and dislikes cause others to draw near or push away. That is preference and should not be caused by concluding anything about anyone. The difference I'm talking about is in the one making the decision and not about the one who is being "judged". Whatever.

Oh yes to that I agree completely, we should never make conclusions about who someone is. First because we never know the full picture and secon because the person is still coming to be as time and actions go on.

Judging is necessary though.
 
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