Spiderman
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I've been informed that masturbation is an " intrinsically disordered Act" of debauchery! I'm wondering if the average person commits this intrinsically disordered Act.
The longest I've gone without yanking one out was a year-and-a-half, because I was hoping to become a chaste monk. I relapsed after having a full-blown orgasm and ejaculated in my pants while I was kneeling in a church pew reciting the Divine Office. I kid you not! I figured I must be in mortal sin now, so it couldn't make the sin much worse if I yank one out before going to the confession booth and getting absolved of my sick wretchedness!
I'm finding that it can be therapeutic to do so... I certainly don't like to indulge in such shameful Satanic Behavior... It makes me feel guilty and Despicable, but I prefer the shame and guilt over the Chronic sexual tension that results from attempting to be completely chaste.
Somebody told me that masturbation is an addiction that if you stop feeding that addiction, the sexual tension will go away.
FALSE!
That actually isn't true. In my year and a half of abstinence, the sexual tension actually went up to the point where I was getting boners and premature ejaculations, just by reciting the Rosary and feeling intimacy with the Blessed Mother!!!
Now that I rub one off every now and then, that never happens. I try to turn it into something spiritual, so that when I orgasm I make a wish and recite a prayer of exaltation to a Heavenly being. Then I ask God to cleanse me and have mercy on my leper soul.
However, the church does say that sexual pleasure is a foretaste of heaven, so I try to see it as that.
So, how can masturbation be therapeutic? I kid you not I was able to reorient my sexuality... I used to have angry sadistic sexual fantasies which started as a child... I was able to completely reorder my sexuality by associating sexual stimulation with a fantasy of healthy forms of love and affection.
By meditating on healthy forms of sexual intimacy , free of anger and the need to dominate and control, and associating healthy intimacy with sexual stimulation, the Mind gradually got in the habit of only being aroused by what I determined to be healthy and innocent.
A sexuality can be trained and reoriented... One just needs to govern their habits and take ownership.
If you're in the habit of associating sexual gratification with deviant thoughts of dominating and controlling a person , terrorist attacks, or blowing up buildings, it can be very difficult to reverse that and you're simply conditioning yourself to want to act that out!!
It can seem unpleasant and boring at first to abstain from such desires and change what arouses you, but I've experienced it firsthand, so am a firm believer. You simply have to change how you Channel your Sexual Energy.
I used to think that masturbation could condemn a soul to hell fire... I honestly think that such an attitude was more unhealthy for me than masturbation itself.
I'm not defending the habit, in the sense that I'm not saying it's okay... It may indeed be intrinsically disordered... I honestly wish I never did it.
However, I found that chastity , guilt, and fear of hell, and the wrath of God only replaced one disorder with a much worse sickness.
Feeling like a sick disordered leper , and chronic tension isn't healthy... I feel more healthy now than I did when I was at the monastery going to daily mass, doing penance, reciting the daily Rosary, chanting the Liturgy of the Hours, rising at 4:45 a.m., and excessively trying to purge myself of lust!
I've been informed that masturbation is an " intrinsically disordered Act" of debauchery! I'm wondering if the average person commits this intrinsically disordered Act.
The longest I've gone without yanking one out was a year-and-a-half, because I was hoping to become a chaste monk. I relapsed after having a full-blown orgasm and ejaculated in my pants while I was kneeling in a church pew reciting the Divine Office. I kid you not! I figured I must be in mortal sin now, so it couldn't make the sin much worse if I yank one out before going to the confession booth and getting absolved of my sick wretchedness!
I'm finding that it can be therapeutic to do so... I certainly don't like to indulge in such shameful Satanic Behavior... It makes me feel guilty and Despicable, but I prefer the shame and guilt over the Chronic sexual tension that results from attempting to be completely chaste.
Somebody told me that masturbation is an addiction that if you stop feeding that addiction, the sexual tension will go away.
FALSE!
That actually isn't true. In my year and a half of abstinence, the sexual tension actually went up to the point where I was getting boners and premature ejaculations, just by reciting the Rosary and feeling intimacy with the Blessed Mother!!!
Now that I rub one off every now and then, that never happens. I try to turn it into something spiritual, so that when I orgasm I make a wish and recite a prayer of exaltation to a Heavenly being. Then I ask God to cleanse me and have mercy on my leper soul.
However, the church does say that sexual pleasure is a foretaste of heaven, so I try to see it as that.
So, how can masturbation be therapeutic? I kid you not I was able to reorient my sexuality... I used to have angry sadistic sexual fantasies which started as a child... I was able to completely reorder my sexuality by associating sexual stimulation with a fantasy of healthy forms of love and affection.
By meditating on healthy forms of sexual intimacy , free of anger and the need to dominate and control, and associating healthy intimacy with sexual stimulation, the Mind gradually got in the habit of only being aroused by what I determined to be healthy and innocent.
A sexuality can be trained and reoriented... One just needs to govern their habits and take ownership.
If you're in the habit of associating sexual gratification with deviant thoughts of dominating and controlling a person , terrorist attacks, or blowing up buildings, it can be very difficult to reverse that and you're simply conditioning yourself to want to act that out!!
It can seem unpleasant and boring at first to abstain from such desires and change what arouses you, but I've experienced it firsthand, so am a firm believer. You simply have to change how you Channel your Sexual Energy.
I used to think that masturbation could condemn a soul to hell fire... I honestly think that such an attitude was more unhealthy for me than masturbation itself.
I'm not defending the habit, in the sense that I'm not saying it's okay... It may indeed be intrinsically disordered... I honestly wish I never did it.
However, I found that chastity , guilt, and fear of hell, and the wrath of God only replaced one disorder with a much worse sickness.
Feeling like a sick disordered leper , and chronic tension isn't healthy... I feel more healthy now than I did when I was at the monastery going to daily mass, doing penance, reciting the daily Rosary, chanting the Liturgy of the Hours, rising at 4:45 a.m., and excessively trying to purge myself of lust!
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