Fixed so the 1st sentence comports with the 2nd.I voteda conditional "yes"no. I simply cannot cut any slack for those who ignored Trump's utter depravity and his willingness to undermine our democracy.
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Fixed so the 1st sentence comports with the 2nd.I voteda conditional "yes"no. I simply cannot cut any slack for those who ignored Trump's utter depravity and his willingness to undermine our democracy.
Probably not. And I hope not. I tolerated and put up with their garbage long enough. After years of them telling me what they believe, I tell them how I feel.Well, you're quite young.
By the time you reach my age, your magnanimity will embiggen.
I have an issue when politics are mixed with religion. When someone thinks their political candidates are divinely chosen, It leads to a cult like devotion, and shuts down any possibility for meaningful dialogue.
It's not that I don't respect people like this, but I choose not to interact with them about politics.
Think you're mature already?Probably not. And I hope not. I tolerated and put up with their garbage long enough. After years of them telling me what they believe, I tell them how I feel.
"Respect" is a pretty vague, but emotionally loaded, term.
Might help to narrow it down to a small set of more or less concrete actions, such as "How often do you lie about your political opponents or pass along lies about your political opponents?"
e.g. "Liberals and progressives are the same thing." "Communists and socialists are the same thing." "All Trump voters are morons." "All Trump voters are racists." And so forth.You can't really claim to respect your political opponents if you are willing to lie about them, or pass along lies about them.
Maybe a half dozen questions about things that go into what it means to 'respect' someone.
I guess it's hard to put thoughts into words sometimes, when it's something new... But I would have to say, there has become an opening in my mind for appreciating differences and variety of ideas.
...Possibly it would be interesting to jump from respecting people to respecting other's ideas as well... But one step at a time...
Respecting opposing ideas...I see this as not approving, but insteadI guess it's hard to put thoughts into words sometimes, when it's something new (at least for me)... But I would have to say, there has become an opening in my mind for appreciating differences and variety of ideas.
...Possibly it would be interesting to jump from respecting people to respecting other's ideas as well... But one step at a time...
Maturity is a subjective term I gave up on trying to live to. Especially when other people are defining it. Being a pessimist is immature. Being LW is immature. Rebelling against god is not mature. Not living as tje sex I was born as is immature. Playing video games is immature. Piercings and tattoos are immature. People's ideas of maturity and immaturity are so asinine and "my way only" that even trying to follow a dream (of sorts that I tried to force myself into as Old Me) is immature. Having long hair when youre a male is immature.Think you're mature already?
Hah!
The most frustrating definitely comes from people who think I'm in my early or mid 20s and dismiss me outright as "you're still young" as if it's not possible for me to have learned and gained from experience. They don't agree with me, and they take what they perceive as an easy out.Think you're mature already?
Hah!
This is a good question. Yes, I can say I do respect those who hold to more traditional conservative values and beliefs, while I myself have become more progressive in beliefs and values over the years.
What I cannot respect however, is outright lies and dishonesty. And that is true from those on the side of politics I lean towards, as it is towards those on the conservative side of things. I cannot say I respect disinformation. I cannot say I respect dishonesty. I cannot say I respect Donald Trump for all of those reasons. I also cannot say I respect manipulation to achieve one's political aspirations, such as voter suppression, denying rights to others for political power. I believe in fairness.
These are a basic human respect thing, not a political thing.
Maturity will inexorably happen.Maturity is a subjective term I gave up on trying to live to. Especially when other people are defining it. Being a pessimist is immature. Being LW is immature. Rebelling against god is not mature. Not living as tje sex I was born as is immature. Playing video games is immature. Piercings and tattoos are immature. People's ideas of maturity and immaturity are so asinine and "my way only" that even trying to follow a dream (of sorts that I tried to force myself into as Old Me) is immature. Having long hair when youre a male is immature.
I've been told I'm immature over so many things that are trivial, petty, and have no real bearing on maturity that it's a word I don't use to describe myself.
You are indeed a young whippersnapper....justThe most frustrating definitely comes from people who think I'm in my early or mid 20s and dismiss me outright as "you're still young" as if it's not possible for me to have learned and gained from experience. They don't agree with me, and they take what they perceive as an easy out.
I would like to do a poll at this time to see what percent of Americans actually respect their political opposites as fellow citizens, and value the differences. I would like to contrast this with the notion of not particularly liking 'those people'.
I've heard talk that there may be a split in the Republican party, and those who are more traditional Republicans will break away from the Red Hat or Trumpian Republicans, which are are more anti-democracy, anti-otherist, anti-reality, fascist party. And like you, when it comes to that, those who embrace things like racism and white-supremacy, no, I cannot respect or get along with that.I see it much the same way which is why the 'yes' 'no' question is not one I can answer. This is especially true now when the "other" party is the Trump party not the Republican party. I can't respect those calling for a coup, advocating white nationalist policies, refusing to admit that their guy lost bigly and so forth.
The Republican party used to be an advocate of various philosophies and ideas rather than a pro-authoritarian strongman party that is today's Trump party. But there are still some who call themselves Republicans who have not signed on to the Trump party so to me there's more than one 'other' and we need to include more than just the two major parties as well.
What does it mean to "not tolerate intolerance"?I've heard talk that there may be a split in the Republican party, and those who are more traditional Republicans will break away from the Red Hat or Trumpian Republicans, which are are more anti-democracy, anti-otherist, anti-reality, fascist party. And like you, when it comes to that, those who embrace things like racism and white-supremacy, no, I cannot respect or get along with that.
I believe in the principles of a cooperative society that tries its best to be inclusive of diversity. But it is not a moral wrong to say we need to be intolerant of the intolerant, as paradoxical as that may sound. It is morally correct to oppose intolerance. It is amoral to tolerate intolerance of others. Is it moral to tolerate genocide, for instance?
Re: Popper's ParadoxWhat does it mean to "not tolerate intolerance"?