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Do you see other human beings as enemy?

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Why do people see some people as their enemy?
I just dont get it.
I am an advaitin and rely on my dharma to deal with my adversaries and stronger enemies so the do not bother me in my spiritual faith that I hold. So I say I have no enemies as dharma protects me.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Why do people see some people as their enemy?
I just dont get it.
so.....you've never?
had a total stranger.....walk up to you....and without a word spoken

shove a fist in your eye socket as if to knock you down

I grew up in a bad neighborhood

your fellowman is not to be trusted

no

not at all

call me a cynic if you care to

quilty

for cause
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
When all is said and done, we are still animals at the end of the day. People express instincts and traits as with any other member of the animal kingdom.
That is not true: human beings evolved from tamasic gunas after God injected sattvic and rajasic gunas into genetics some 40.000 years or so ago, and we are special species in the animal kingdom. Not all of us are of sattvic or rajasic gunas and there are substantial numbers of humans still retaining tamasic (evil) guna.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
That is not true: human beings evolved from tamasic gunas after God injected sattvic and rajasic gunas into genetics some 40.000 years or so ago, and we are special species in the animal kingdom. Not all of us are of sattvic or rajasic gunas and there are substantial numbers of humans still retaining tamasic (evil) guna.
so....spiritual qualities can be dealt by genetics?

(I am not altogether opposed)
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Your genetics determine whether you have the genes to live a dharmic life that protects one from those out to destroy you.
not thinking I can go that far with it

the Carpenter seemed to be gifted
but His life didn't end so well
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
It's not a question of whether or not I see them as the enemy, but more whether or not they see me as the enemy. I'm not naive.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
so.....you've never?
had a total stranger.....walk up to you....and without a word spoken

shove a fist in your eye socket as if to knock you down

I grew up in a bad neighborhood

your fellowman is not to be trusted

no

not at all

call me a cynic if you care to

quilty

for cause
i was bullied for 12 years and no i have no hate toward them, and i have no need to get revenge
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
Why do people see some people as their enemy?
I just dont get it.

I would say the state of consciousness determines the nature of the individual and his actions. A man who is self-aware would act in a different manner than when he is not self-aware or unconscious (due to the mind dwelling in past/future under the influence of cravings/aversions.)

A self-aware person tends to have a holistic perception of love and compassion rather than an unconscious person who views everything dualistically with corresponding emotions of hatred, violence or greed.

Modern secular education does not give much importance to the nature of consciousness and this has resulted in a morally skewed generation. Same too with dualistic religions and social systems where immense emotional energy is invested in dualistic labels, provoking emotivity, reactivity and conflict.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Sometimes one actually has enemies.
I've had a few.
Think about it.....who could be out to get one?
An irrational need for revenge, vengeful acts, leading to enmity.
Family


i can relate. who else has tons of personal information on you and generally direct acess?


Matthew 10:36
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’


even crazier still, is some folks believe when you have a relationship with them, you're an object that they can use/manipulate. basically, you're my "relationship" interjected and I own you.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do people see some people as their enemy?

Some people are enemies. They either intend to harm you or are willing to do so. Shouldn't such a person be viewed as an enemy and treated accordingly?

I dont see Human beings as Animals

Well, we are animals. Do you find that offensive or degrading?

All life fits into one of five kingdoms. We are not plants, fungi, protozoans, or bacteria. Ours is the animal kingdom. Would you like a separate kingdom of living things designated for human beings? Or perhaps you think that human beings should not be classified with other life.

By acknowledging your animal nature and examining the rest of the animal kingdom, you can better understand human behavior, which, like our fellow animals, includes aggression.

i say i hold no hate toward others.

That's admirable, and I too hate nobody, although I have in the past. Still, that doesn't mean that some of people are not our enemies or able to become your enemy or mine..

Very hard to love what is against you

No need, either. Love, which I define as a feeling of inclusion that manifests as self-sacrifice in the interest of the loved one, is reserved for those that are not enemies.

Frankly, I don't know what is being asked of us when told to love enemies. What are we being asked to do more than walk away without harboring a grudge or seeking revenge?

Why do they want revenge? it only create more suffering

That's the point of revenge. Sometimes, people that have been hurt want to hurt back.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Why do people see some people as their enemy?
I just dont get it.
Most often it is some form of manifestation of a perception of dispute over resources. The reasons may be imaginary and even unconscious, though.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Some people are enemies. They either intend to harm you or are willing to do so. Shouldn't such a person be viewed as an enemy and treated accordingly?



Well, we are animals. Do you find that offensive or degrading?

All life fits into one of five kingdoms. We are not plants, fungi, protozoans, or bacteria. Ours is the animal kingdom. Would you like a separate kingdom of living things designated for human beings? Or perhaps you think that human beings should not be classified with other life.

By acknowledging your animal nature and examining the rest of the animal kingdom, you can better understand human behavior, which, like our fellow animals, includes aggression.



That's admirable, and I too hate nobody, although I have in the past. Still, that doesn't mean that some of people are not our enemies or able to become your enemy or mine..



No need, either. Love, which I define as a feeling of inclusion that manifests as self-sacrifice in the interest of the loved one, is reserved for those that are not enemies.

Frankly, I don't know what is being asked of us when told to love enemies. What are we being asked to do more than walk away without harboring a grudge or seeking revenge?



That's the point of revenge. Sometimes, people that have been hurt want to hurt back.

If someone want to harm me i do not hate them, nor do i want them any harm,
Human beings is human beings, Sentient beings are not animals we are able to attain the dhamma/teaching, something animals are not.
As a cultivator of the dhamma i have no need to be angry or aggression toward others, those who get angry or want revenge has not understood the power of forgvness
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
All life fits into one of five kingdoms. We are not plants, fungi, protozoans, or bacteria. Ours is the animal kingdom. Would you like a separate kingdom of living things designated for human beings? Or perhaps you think that human beings should not be classified with other life.

Around 40,000 years ago God intervened in tamasic animal life and generated civilisation in human beings so this point onwards sattvic guna and rajasic gunas were introduced. So we humans are a special kingdom that has taken over the world.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
i was bullied for 12 years and no i have no hate toward them, and i have no need to get revenge
Any one who digresses a lot from society's norm takes the risk of being bullied. Your case is nothing compared to mine. I was bullied by the UK State for 20 years. I also forgive them as I think of living only in this country with my pension and the good jobs that my wife and daughters have to bring to the home money to go along with my pension. My survival is the revenge they deserve and I have survived with my dharma, from a dependence on God Consciousness.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Any one who digresses a lot from society's norm takes the risk of being bullied. Your case is nothing compared to mine. I was bullied by the UK State for 20 years. I also forgive them as I think of living only in this country with my pension and the good jobs that my wife and daughters have to bring to the home money to go along with my pension. My survival is the revenge they deserve and I have survived with my dharma, from a dependence on God Consciousness.
I can not compare with you, and have no need to be doing that, but being beaten every school day for 12 years is a hard task to endure, but one get kind of used to it, and today i can say i learned a lot from it, and it kind of made me a stronger person i think
 
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