RevOxley_501
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i see the tongues vs no tongues, the tongues are in the minority, according to the poll here
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RevOxley_501 said:i see the tongues vs no tongues, the tongues are in the minority, according to the poll here
Holly said:They more than likely are the minority throughout the world as well. However, the Pentecostal movement is rapidly growing and with such growth will come more tongues speakers/prayers.
beckysoup61 said:So only Pentecostals can experience this? I'm not trying to start a debate, but I'm curious.
Holly said:No, any born again Christian can pray in tongues. Any born again Christian who is given the gift can speak in tongues. What I was saying is that because the Pentecostal movement is growing rapidly, there will also be a rapid growth of tongues speakers/prayers because tongues speakers/prayers are more common in the Pentecostal family of Christians.
beckysoup61 said:So I have to be a born-again Christian and not a regular Christian? I'm sorry if this sounds argumentative, it's not, I'm just trying to see who fits into the realm of 'speaking and praying in toungues'.
Holly said:You can be a regular Christian I am sure.
beckysoup61 said:Thank you. :yes:
Sorry about all the questions.
FFH said:I neither speak in tongues nor pray in tongues and I've never heard of a modern day LDS member speaking in tongues but I've had, just recently, someone pray over me and speak in tongues through a non-denominational prayer line, not expecting that to happen but it did. It was a neat unexpected experience and a partial interpretation was given, or at least what I thought was an interpretation, so I could to understand what was being said in tongues.
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both had experiences with speaking and praying in tongues, but it is all but disappeared from the church today.
FFH said:I neither speak in tongues nor pray in tongues and I've never heard of a modern day LDS member speaking in tongues but I've had, just recently, someone pray over me and speak in tongues through a non-denominational prayer line, not expecting that to happen but it did. It was a neat unexpected experience and a partial interpretation was given, or at least what I thought was an interpretation, so I could to understand what was being said in tongues.
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both had experiences with speaking and praying in tongues, but it is all but disappeared from the church today.
I felt I needed a non-biased person, someone who didn't know me, to pray over me, and possibly give me a different perspective of my particular situation, other than what those around me were giving me. I had been struggling with doubts about the way my life was headed and it was getting harder and harder to stay positive. Just needed someone other than those around me to pray for me. I felt it would help me with my faith, give me strength, and encourage me and it did.RevOxley_501 said:im curious to know what you called a nondenom prayer line for
do tell if you like?!?1
The pentecostal church I grew up in was doctrinally sound for a while, they adhered to the commands of scripture on how we are to conduct ourselves when we meet together and on how the gifts and for what purpose the gifts of the Spirit were used. Then something happened, men started coming in who were no longer speaking of heaven but about the world, no longer setting your affection on things above but instead you can have it all now. No longer was the bible the sole rule for deciding church practice but God was doing a new thing that He wanted everyone to get on board with. Hymns were being used less and less and replaced with shallow repetative hypnotic choruses. Those who questioned things got called dividers, pharisees and generally people who were not Spirit filled.Holly said:Wow. Believe me when I say you need to try a different Pentecostal service. Not all Pentecostal services are like that. I'd venture to say that most aren't.
beckysoup61 said:So only Pentecostals can experience this? I'm not trying to start a debate, but I'm curious.
*Paul* said:No Becky and it also happens in other religions and the occult.
beckysoup61 said:So how do you determine if it's of the 'occult' kind or not? Trust your judgement?
*Paul* said:The pentecostal church I grew up in was doctrinally sound for a while, they adhered to the commands of scripture on how we are to conduct ourselves when we meet together and on how the gifts and for what purpose the gifts of the Spirit were used. Then something happened, men started coming in who were no longer speaking of heaven but about the world, no longer setting your affection on things above but instead you can have it all now. No longer was the bible the sole rule for deciding church practice but God was doing a new thing that He wanted everyone to get on board with. Hymns were being used less and less and replaced with shallow repetative hypnotic choruses. Those who questioned things got called dividers, pharisees and generally people who were not Spirit filled.
Teachings came in wherby it was claimed that as faith is the force that God used to create the world we can now tap into that same power and speak into being the things that we want, you just had to get a right vision of it and have faith in your faith, (Yongi cho).
And worst of all the Toronto experience I can't think of another so called move of the Spirit that has caused so much division in modern days as this, this was the straw that broke the camels back and has infected most pentecostalism in the U.K. My family (I was 12) and some others left that church in protest.
I praise God for the few biblical teachers that stood against these errors even when it meant personal loss, their reward is surely in heaven as they turned many to righteosuness.
I tell you now if I could find a pentecostal church that submitted to the authority of the teachings of Jesus and the apostles i would go to it.