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What do you mean the bible is clear on that much? Elaborate
You know as well as I do Jesus is the only way to the Father.
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What do you mean the bible is clear on that much? Elaborate
You know as well as I do Jesus is the only way to the Father.
Well i had no idea you agreed with the Bible oin that account. ....but we are in agreement.
Lilithu said:I don't really see how that is functionally different from what I suggested.
I asked what if there are some locations where a breeze is more likely than others? I don't think that any religion can guarantee that it will produce a breeze. But some may take you to a place where the probability of experiencing a breeze is greater when practiced. And some may take you to a place where the probability less when practiced. Either way, a religion could not guarantee experience of God. Nor would any preclude it. Yet, it still would be the case that some religions are better than others (assuming that one wants the breeze). And it still would be the case that practicing the "right" religion would be "statistically" preferable to not practicing any at all.
If you are that attached to the metaphor, so we'll talk about opening windows. I don't really care whether the house stays or goes. I sincerely fail to see the significance of the distinction.I took your suggestion that we could go to some location where the breeze is more likely than others to imply that we could leave the "house" in the metaphor. But, in Krishnamurti's metaphor, the "house" cannot be left. All that can be done to feel the breeze is either open the windows or leave the windows open. One cannot travel outside the house.
Why not just point out that some religions do a better job at either opening the windows or leaving the windows open? Or that other religions might actually close the windows, in part or entirely. Saying something along those lines conveys the same point your making --- but without over extending the metaphor.
Umm.... so are you. So is Krishnamurti.Having said that, I would still take issue -- no matter what metaphor you use to describe it -- with the notion that practicing the "right" religion is statistically preferable to not practicing any at all. Neither you nor I know that to be the case. Your speculating.
If you are that attached to the metaphor, so we'll talk about opening windows. I don't really care whether the house stays or goes. I sincerely fail to see the significance of the distinction.
Umm.... so are you. So is Krishnamurti.
A barrier to the breeze.What do you think the house symbolizes?
I didn't really say that. I said that it could be that for some people, practicing a religion is better. And for some, they would be better off without religion.I don't know about Krishnamurti, but I am merely saying the jury is still out on whether any religion is significantly better in these respects than no religion. If you call that "speculation", so be it. But it's not what I would call speculation.
Do you think all religions lead to God?
I believe all religions lead to someone else's God.
Sunstone has taught you well young Padawan.doppelgänger;866982 said:Follow up question:
I believe that everyone is a god, so if the opportunity presents itself, I could see sharing a REALationship with someone elses god (I would never follow or own a god). An example may be that I may not have much in common with the God of Abraham as expressed in the Old Testament but the Christian god as expressed through Jesus may interest me.doppelganger writes: Can "someone else's God" ever really be "God" for you
Every religion is practiced by individual adherents who perceive and interpret it in their own way. Why would practicing a religion lead to anyone else's god other than your own?I believe all religions lead to someone else's God.
I believe that one and everything is an aspect of God, so the phrase "lead to God" is rather inaccurate. That note aside, I believe thatWho here beleives that all religions lead to God, or that more than one religion leads to God, explain why and how you beleive this(this question is for those who actually beleive God exists).
Who here beleives that all religions lead to God, or that more than one religion leads to God, explain why and how you beleive this(this question is for those who actually beleive God exists).
The experience of God is like a breeze that comes and goes. How can a religion be a path to a breeze?
JayHawes said:And again. I want to make clear that Allah is not Yahweh, their characters and being are so contradictory. I qoute: "that claim that "Christians and Muslims worship the same God if not false, then certainly simplistic and one-sided."
JayHawes said:Do you think all religions lead to God
Let's now understand "God" to be any higher being or beings, or any supernatural being considered a god, or any state of existsance considered to be "God."
YHWH isn't the Christian God either. If you take an objective look at the Old Testament, you will see how human and tribal YHWH is.
But called by many names isn't the same as called by all names. What I mean is, it may be the case that many or even most religions "lead to" God, but that doesn't mean they all do.Yes. I believe this because the Rig Veda says that Truth is one but is called by different names.
Therefore God is called by many different names such as Krishna, Jesus, Allah etc.
YHWH isn't the Christian God either. If you take an objective look at the Old Testament, you will see how human and tribal YHWH is.
Well... Jesus was Jewish.Jesus called the OT God "My Father,"