Do you think my sins are killing people?

[Spiderman]

. . . As I repeatedly concede, there's more than a modicum of truth to much of what you write. There's a serious, historical, undergirding of actuality, to most of your arguments.

When I was four or five, I saw things through a prism colored very similar to the threads you start. And though I don't really know how much of your writing is heart-felt vs. how much is for shocking effect, in my early youth it was all heart-felt. It was only when in my early teens that I accepted Christ as my savior that all the stuff you note began to be seen through a different lens.

What you write is, was, still true (after my salvation) it's just that now I realized that without Christ there is, was, no hope or explanation for how a demonic god could be running and ruining a planet (or cosmos)? How could the "good" God allow such evil and suffering to take place?

For me, the Gospel not only answered that question (and Jesus endured the hardest lashes of the god of this world), but it counciled me to be patient, and, in the words of King David: trust is the good God with all your heart and look not on the things of the world but in all things trust Him and he will guide your path. Faith and patient endurance is the ointment I slather on the wounds when this world treats me in all the ways you so ably document.




John

You don't see evidence of a lot of people (including atheists and idolaters like Gandhi) demonstrating more humility, compassion, and what you would think is a more justice for sin , more merciful , than this current God , who claims that he is omnipotence , as well as love and mercy?

 

[John D. Brey]

You don't see evidence of a lot of people (including atheists and idolaters like Gandhi) demonstrating more humility, compassion, and what you would think is a more justice for sin , more merciful , than this current God , who claims that he is omnipotence , as well as love and mercy?

Yes. Of course. . . But the "God" you speak of is not the God I worship. Even the interpretations of the Bible we have are contaminated by men and angels and are not some divine language come directly from the mouth of God to our ears. The stuff you point out is indeed a mess come in the name of God. And I concede it appears God is back there somewhere allowing all this mess and suffering to happen without doing anything about it. . . But in my opinion, and in my belief, the time-frame we experience now, and the sufferings we experience now, the confusion and all the stuff you point out, will, in another dimension of reality, seem like a brief and endurable episode so forgettable and incidental in comparison with what God is able to do once this current time-frame comes to a close.

For those of us with faith, the suffering taking place in this world is a necessary evil since God does nothing arbitrary. And yet as St. Paul stated it, this momentary suffering is not to be compared with the glory that is to be.




John

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Your image of God is narrow. Consider that he is with everyone you see as a victim.

If someone is self harming, can you actually divorce the self being cut from the self who cuts? If your efforts are focused toward condemning the self who cuts, are you truly loving the self being cut?

This speaks to the necessity of the son. We are supposed to see the son in the victim and in the father, connecting the two. When you love the victim, use the son to also love the father. Not out of obligation, but as a strategy to get unstuck and back into the proper narrative. God is the ultimate victim on the cross.

Justice can come later. You’re not ready for that chapter after all. Love and forgiveness first.

 

[Misunderstood]

Your image of God is narrow. Consider that he is with everyone you see as a victim.

If someone is self harming, can you actually divorce the self being cut from the self who cuts? If your efforts are focused toward condemning the self who cuts, are you truly loving the self being cut?

This speaks to the necessity of the son. We are supposed to see the son in the victim and in the father, connecting the two. When you love the victim, use the son to also love the father. Not out of obligation, but as a strategy to get unstuck and back into the proper narrative. God is the ultimate victim on the cross.

Justice can come later. You’re not ready for that chapter after all. Love and forgiveness first.

I agree with what Treasure Hunter is saying here, I was going to say something along those lines.

You are looking down a very narrow tunnel and not getting a very good view. I cannot say that you are wrong in all you say. From what we read in the Bible it does confirm some of what you say. But there is a much larger view to be seen. I know none of us here see the full view we just have faith it is so, for now it has to be enough.

I don't know what you like in music, but I am inserting a song here for you, sometimes music helps. Just know I do think about you and have hope for you.