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Do you trust Hillary?

Do you agree that Hillay used to lie?


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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Do you think she's a honest, a sincere and a trustful person?

If you agree that she used to lie and she did nothing significant for America other than wars,
then do you think she deserves your voice? if you think she deserves it, then why, while knowing
that she used to lie and made wrong decisions.

 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
the pole questions are asking did she used to lie...is that implying that she doesn't lie now?

My answer is yes, she use to lie and she still does and has been caught in it more than once during her campaign.

And I do not believe she is a honest, sincere and trustful person
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Do you think she's a honest, a sincere and a trustful person?

If you agree that she used to lie and she did nothing significant for America other than wars,
then do you think she deserves your voice? if you think she deserves it, then why, while knowing
that she used to lie and made wrong decisions.


No.
In my opinion, it is not very wise to put trust in people of power and money.
This is why I don't even vote, I don't need anyone to represent my mind. My nature does not allow me to choose between greater or lesser perceived evils. I cannot be honest with myself and vote for anyone who lies, who controls, who belittles others, who condemns others, who does whatever it takes to win, who stirs hatred, who divides people. Even little evil doesn't warrant a vote from my nature. This easily excludes both.
If Donald or Hillary wins, I respect the conclusion and wish both the best. I hope for bipartisanship and equality for all of the people, not just half. Neither have a burden on my mind and neither will improve the quality of my life, only I can do that.
But that is me. Excluding me and perceiving who would be better for the people I also cannot do, each person has the right to represent themselves first and foremost over any other mind representing them. It is grieving that many give away that right so easily, not in voting, but in allowing control.
 

Papoon

Active Member
Find me a person who has never lied.
Someone other than a mythologised 'saint' or 'prophet'.

If that is the standard then no one is fit for office...any office, whether secular or religious.

Have you ever lied ?

That aside - of course I don't trust Hillary. She wouldn't be a significant part of the status quo if she was opposed to it. And the status quo is so corrupt it is irredeemable.

I wish I had reason for a more positive view. But as I see it, the globe is run by warring elites who seem to be entirely psychopathic possibly from centuries of inbreeding.

And the population have either no idea that that is the case, or no idea what to do about it.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
No, she is untrustworthly, but she can probably be trusted to do less damage than what Trump would've done.

I wish I agreed with that but at this point I think they will do equal amounts of damage, just in different areas. Neither one of them should be president....
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I need a 3rd option.
I trust her to perform as expected (per her record), but not so much as she says.
So what would I check for someone dishonest but predictable?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I wish I agreed with that but at this point I think they will do equal amounts of damage, just in different areas. Neither one of them should be president....

Of course, we had better (albeit imperfect) alternatives available in Gary Johnson or Jill Stein.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Do you think she's a honest, a sincere and a trustful person?

If you agree that she used to lie and she did nothing significant for America other than wars,
then do you think she deserves your voice? if you think she deserves it, then why, while knowing
that she used to lie and made wrong decisions.


Find me a person that doesn't lie and then you'll have proved God exists
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I remember various pictures of her over her lifetime. I think she's pretty interesting and cool, but I haven't read her biography yet. I think that she is very hard working and can debate well. This is very important for a president, because otherwise they can get walked over by the military, lobbies and their own staff. Another very good thing about her is that she isn't campaigning on the promise that God has called her to be president. She is also able to accept criticism. You would think that these basic traits would be easy to get in a presidential candidate but lately they have become rare. I have seen her in debates, and she's pretty good which means she's smart enough. There are unfortunately some issues that I may not agree with her on, but as a president she would only be able to accomplish what congress and the supreme court allowed anyway.
 
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