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Does a god exist?

Vijay B Menon

Let the flower bloom
Speculation.
Why do we give so nuch importance to intelligence. Because it gives you money, power etc. In that field of knowledge brain is necessary because it is just functional. But in the field of self i quiry qe dont need functional brain rather we need full freedom. Freedom of self inquiry which is not scientific and functional
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Does a god exist somewhere out there? Or is it the name given to the total silence within us?

All we can really know is that all the revealed gods are fictional, and thus the total silence. Knowledge of God's existence would be intentionally kept from us in order to maintain our free will. And if God doesn't exist, that knowledge is exceptionally good at hiding itself.
If the universe is a case of spontaneous creation, you'd expect some, unguided naturally occurring evidence indicating that. Unfortunately, we can’t use a lack of evidence, as evidence. Clever. Still.....it does get curiouser and curiouser, the longer we go without finding anything to indicate spontaneous creation.
 

Vijay B Menon

Let the flower bloom
All we can really know is that all the revealed gods are fictional, and thus the total silence. Knowledge of God's existence would be intentionally kept from us in order to maintain our free will. And if God doesn't exist, that knowledge is exceptionally good at hiding itself.
If the universe is a case of spontaneous creation, you'd expect some, unguided naturally occurring evidence indicating that. Unfortunately, we can’t use a lack of evidence, as evidence. Clever. Still.....it does get curiouser and curiouser, the longer we go without finding anything to indicate spontaneous creation.
Why are we bothered who created the universe and how. Whether god created the universe(as in genesis) or a big bang created it. Why are we bothered afterall. Why do you want to know what is life? We should be bothered about our living. And for living is reauired continuous action(karma). And action depends on perception. Perception without interception of thought. And this action is possible if we have freedom. Freedom for self inquiry. And in the process when there is cessation of time then comes that silence. In that silence there is action instantly without interception of our past(thoughts).
 

ronandcarol

Member
Premium Member
Does a god exist somewhere out there? Or is it the name given to the total silence within us?
There is One True Living God out there and the MOST surprising thing about this One True God is that He can and will live within you to guide you through this worldly life. When we believe in His Son and become a Christian, this One True God will send His Holy Spirit to reside within each believer to guide them to the truth. Isn't that amazing!
ronandcarol
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
See we have to believe anything only when you are not sure of it. Otherwise we do have to believe. Its a fact as tangible as any other tangible objects. So it is intangible which make us difficult to accept and we call it belief
Well, no. Knowledge is a sunset of belief.

And I'm still not sure how this is supposed to be relevant.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I guess it depends on what s considered to be a god? Someone who is vastly more powerful than those around them or perhaps beings that function on a cosmic scale. Perhaps their are beings that are abstract in nature as well and have no physical form either. I believe both can exist.
 

Vijay B Menon

Let the flower bloom
Does a god exist somewhere out there? Or is it the name given to the total silence within us?
There is One True Living God out there and the MOST surprising thing about this One True God is that He can and will live within you to guide you through this worldly life. When we believe in His Son and become a Christian, this One True God will send His Holy Spirit to reside within each believer to guide them to the truth. Isn't that amazing!
ronandcarol
If thats true then why he doesn't send his holy spirit when many innocent people dies in a war. Would he allow such a thing?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Does a god exist somewhere out there? Or is it the name given to the total silence within us?
I think the assumption is that God exists everywhere. Within and without.

I think asking if "God exists" is asking the wrong question, because it's not possible for we limited cognitive humans to answer such a question given the way we define God. I think the much more important question is, do I want to believe that a God exists? And id so, how will I conceptualize that God's nature? And then, finally, how does my chosen belief in God effect my life, and effect the lives of those around me?

Because the truth is, whatever answer we choose regarding the existence of God is going to be based on faith, and not on knowledge. Which means that we can change our minds if the answers we choose are not working for us.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
If a god does exist they are probably not a god. Maybe an extraterrestrial who can't hear our prayers and isn't interested in intervening in human evolution.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
you have a better chance of a living force than an almighty God. and it wouldn't be anything magical or supernatural. just your basic natural everyday living force.
 

DOKS

New Member
Yes God exists. he appeared to Moses in the burning bush and talked in his own Hebrew language giving him instructions to go to pharaoh of Egypt to let Israelites go to Canaan. he did a lot of miracles like making rivers to turn to blood just to prove to pharaoh that he exists. he also divided the red sea for Israelites to pass through. has he not proved his existence in these actions? he even talked from the top of mount Sinai in the journey of Israelites reading out the ten commandments in their own language and they were so shaken by the voice of God. has he not proved his existence clearly? am a new comer to this good forum and wish to know what our brethren who don't believe God exist say about this story of the bible of how God proved his own existence. if we think this may not have happened, we did not exist at that time to be sure that it did not happen.
 

Vijay B Menon

Let the flower bloom
Yes God exists. he appeared to Moses in the burning bush and talked in his own Hebrew language giving him instructions to go to pharaoh of Egypt to let Israelites go to Canaan. he did a lot of miracles like making rivers to turn to blood just to prove to pharaoh that he exists. he also divided the red sea for Israelites to pass through. has he not proved his existence in these actions? he even talked from the top of mount Sinai in the journey of Israelites reading out the ten commandments in their own language and they were so shaken by the voice of God. has he not proved his existence clearly? am a new comer to this good forum and wish to know what our brethren who don't believe God exist say about this story of the bible of how God proved his own existence. if we think this may not have happened, we did not exist at that time to be sure that it did not happen.[/QUOTE
just look at it only from a mythological perspective. Many references in bible are just metaphorical with subtle messages. Dont take itas a taste of reality
 

Vijay B Menon

Let the flower bloom
Yes God exists. he appeared to Moses in the burning bush and talked in his own Hebrew language giving him instructions to go to pharaoh of Egypt to let Israelites go to Canaan. he did a lot of miracles like making rivers to turn to blood just to prove to pharaoh that he exists. he also divided the red sea for Israelites to pass through. has he not proved his existence in these actions? he even talked from the top of mount Sinai in the journey of Israelites reading out the ten commandments in their own language and they were so shaken by the voice of God. has he not proved his existence clearly? am a new comer to this good forum and wish to know what our brethren who don't believe God exist say about this story of the bible of how God proved his own existence. if we think this may not have happened, we did not exist at that time to be sure that it did not happen.
Many illustrations in bible are just metaphorical. Dont taste it as the reality.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
If a god does exist they are probably not a god. Maybe an extraterrestrial who can't hear our prayers and isn't interested in intervening in human evolution.

It's an interesting thing I see more and more of, atheists/ naturalists/ materialists warming to the idea of intelligent design - as long as it's not called 'God' of course, though the distinction seems fairly blurred..

Either way some sort of creative intelligence behind creation is looking increasingly likely when the alternative is down to some sort of flying spaghetti multiverse!
 

DOKS

New Member
I think its better to believe that GOD exists and then die and find him not, if he really doesn't exist and go into nothingness if that should be the case, rather than believe he doesn't exist and meet him after death and be judged by him. if god doesn't exist, all of us will go into the nothingness whether we believed in god or not. but if god exists, someone who believed he doesn't exist is at a loss. this is common sense.
 
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