sandy whitelinger
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I believe that anyone who accept Jesus as their savior and He accept them then they are Christians. Scripture is full of misguided believers.
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Does a Person Need to Understand Everything In Their Religion?
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Majikthise
nude
Can you say "prison conversion"?
Good question. I would also say that it is not necessary and perhaps not even possible. However most people do do some research before "purchasing the product".
The point then might be to arrive at a state of intuitive knowing of unshakable confidence before claiming the religion is right for them. Others seem happy to "suck it and see".
I don't think another person can deny a person a religion on these grounds either, but certain rituals, such as baptism (Amrit in Sikhism) may require some knowledge of scripture etc for example.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
This is kind of like asking should we understand all there is about life before we live it?
A lot of great answers, I enjoyed reading them. Thanks for answering. 
I think it impossible to learn everything there is to know about a faith or religion, but I think a person should at least have a basic understanding before they "make the leap" (so to speak).
I think it impossible to learn everything there is to know about a faith or religion, but I think a person should at least have a basic understanding before they "make the leap" (so to speak).
Majikthise
nude
Well said.:yes:
Not exactly the same. We are alive whether we choose to be or not (unless we commit suicide). We do, however, choose our faiths, although we don't really choose to belief in God (usually).
javajo
Well-Known Member
2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Mathew 18
Here is what I believe. To become a Christian, one need only hear the gospel, be convicted that they are a sinner in need of a savior by the Holy Spirit, and trust in Christ. This is what happened to me when I was eight years old. As time went on I learned and grew more in Christ. Statistics show that the older people get, the less likely they will accept Christ, perhaps due to pride and hardness of heart and all the foolishness of philosophy and evolution and whatnot that blinds them to the truth.
3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Mathew 18
Here is what I believe. To become a Christian, one need only hear the gospel, be convicted that they are a sinner in need of a savior by the Holy Spirit, and trust in Christ. This is what happened to me when I was eight years old. As time went on I learned and grew more in Christ. Statistics show that the older people get, the less likely they will accept Christ, perhaps due to pride and hardness of heart and all the foolishness of philosophy and evolution and whatnot that blinds them to the truth.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
Well if you knew all there was about your faith before you chose it would it still be a faith?
javajo
Well-Known Member
If you break one law, you are guilty of all. God concludes us all as guilty. So, how does someone who is not perfect become perfect like God? (Hint: 2 Cor. 5:21)
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
I wouldn't say "everything", but you should understand all of the important things. For instance, my mom is a very intelligent woman and wonderful mother. When I started seriously questioning Christianity, I brought up questions like the problem of evil and others to her. Her response was that they were good questions and that she could set up a time for me to talk to her priest about them. I would say you should understand some of the fundamental things like why an all-good god would allow evil, for instance. "Everything" covers so much, though, that that might be unreasonable or impossible to expect.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I think its different from case to case. many people were born Christian. I don't think I see anything wrong with that. it must inspire them in various ways. I am not sure about understanding everything, but as people who were born into a Christian community or into a Christian tradition, it is an opportunity for them to develop this tradition, or to study its history for example to study about the church fathers, what is the purpose behind each of the four canonical gospels, the major reforms in Christianity, which are probably related to the denomination they belong to and a myriad of other topics.
Knowing everything about one's faith takes long hours of study, which will probably resume throughout that person's life. and that is possibly what the Christian tradition teaches.
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Shermana
Heretic
The word is "Panton", which means "The whole thing", rather than "All". Likewise, if you steal a candy bar, you are a criminal according to the US Justice System just as if you went on an axe murder rampage.
So I take it you acknowledge that "sin" means "breaking the Law (of Moses)" and that a "Sinner" is one who has done so. So what is the point of repentance, in relevance to your quote?
What does "perfect" mean? When Jesus says "be perfect", is he saying anything other than 'don't sin"?
It is impossible to know everything about a faith. Instead of nitpicking on my wording, why don't you try to see what it is truly asking? You couldn't have come to this thread just to criticize it, do you have any kind of answer?
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
Sorry not criticizing. My point is you start out in faith just like a child starts out in life. You start as a child and you grow and develope spiritual into maturity. I have no idea what your faith is or if you follow the Bible. In the Bible though you are to come as a child.It seems that those who try to step into a faith with any kind of their own understanding struggle to get to know God.It is impossible to know everything about a faith. Instead of nitpicking on my wording, why don't you try to see what it is truly asking? You couldn't have come to this thread just to criticize it, do you have any kind of answer?
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lunamoth
Will to love
If you mean to fully understand all of the doctrine, I would say no. However, if you become part of a community that puts a lot of emphasis on doctrine and ritual and dogma, and you don't fully digest it for yourself, you can end up hitting something that you disagree with and ultimately drives you from religion.
Related to your other thread on 'the rules,'
, hold doctrine lightly, like a living thing. If you hold it too tightly you will crush it (or it you).One really needs to have a better understanding of himself before he can know his religion better. One chooses a religion based upon a deeper urge within himself -- the influence of the fragment of Deity living within his mind.
When you find this truth, your religion will become personal, you have a personal relationship with Deity. You no longer need to subscribe to any doctrinal teaching in order to sustain your faith even though you may need some creeds to satisfy your intellectual needs.
When you find this truth, your religion will become personal, you have a personal relationship with Deity. You no longer need to subscribe to any doctrinal teaching in order to sustain your faith even though you may need some creeds to satisfy your intellectual needs.
No, but they should remain open minded to the fact that they might be wrong.