Ah, so if the answer for you is "I don't know what a god is," then the justification for their believing that an experience took place with God is another's to judge.
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Does An Experience of God Prove The Existence Of God?
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logician
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Ah, so if the answer for you is "I don't know what a god is," then the justification for their believing that an experience took place with God is another's to judge.
Entirely so, I'm just asking what that justification is.
But it would be meaningless to you. For instance, let's say I have a particular concept of what "God" is, and if I claim as justification of my experience of this thing a detailed account of my experience of this thing, where does that leave you?
logician
Well-Known Member
Why the belligerence? Why do you say it would be meaningless, I'm just wanting to know what the exeperience is and why it is related to a god.
Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
No, no single experience of anything can prove something. Personal accounts are nothing if they are not backed up by empirical evidence.
I'm sorry; I didn't mean to sound belligerent. Why wouldn't it be meaningless to you, if you have no concept of "a god"? Or to put it another way, you would simply have to chalk up the experience to something else --you would have no choice.
Think it through.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
To quote a professor who would bellow into my left ear for 50 minutes straight
Anecdotal evidence means nothing.
What class? Surely it's relevance is entirely relative and case-specific.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
It is relevant in almost every field.
Good old Statistics 101. How to design an experiment that shows meaningful results.
Also, how to accurately interpret results. Chapter 3 I think
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
If you have an experience of Leprechauns, does that prove the existence of Leprechauns? Why or why not?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
In an emperical sense it does not. If however you think you had an experience of a leprechaun is that enough?
I can doubt everything except that I think, in order to live I have to go with working assumptions and with what makes 'sense' to me. It does not flow from this that my assumptions will work for anyone else.
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If you have an experience of God, does that prove the existence of God? Why or why not?
It does not prove it, but, nor do I think proof impacts on the subjective experience of it. Also subjective experience is virtually impossible to communicate.
We learnt this when we were kids. I don't know who wrote it
Reason has moons
But moons not hers
Lie mirrored on her seas
Confounding her astronomers
But O delighting me
If it delightful who cares whether or not it confounds, I find some of the delight in being confounded
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
I don't know, was I dreaming? Did I have too much coffee? Not enough sleep? is it dark? Drugs? alcohol? Chocolate? With other words; even if you did have the experience than it isn't 100% accurate. So it would first strongly depend on the kind of experience..
With that, if your eyes experience a rainbow, is there actually a colored bow there or lots of water reflecting light? Is there a bow at all?
My personal answer though, I can't tell. Never had such an experience myself..
With that, if your eyes experience a rainbow, is there actually a colored bow there or lots of water reflecting light? Is there a bow at all?
My personal answer though, I can't tell. Never had such an experience myself..
What is the justification in believing your question is relevant to actual event?
Unification
Well-Known Member
To think that a "god" automatically must be a supernatural deity, a specific figure just because many or organized religions say so or define it that way is also flat-out ridiculous.
Just as conditioned as the ones who assume supernatural deity, or a specific religious figure. The sharing of the same assumed beliefs of what a "god" is.
You may not believe in those "gods" but you believe that's what a "god" is and must be.
Senseless
Bonnie & Clyde
I think different people experience reality differently. Maybe some experience a reality in which a god or gods exist. If it works for you, that's great, and not for me to judge. Whether I personally would accept someone else's testimony of their experience with god as true for me as well would depend entirely on the context.
So....maybe?....I don't know.
So....maybe?....I don't know.
Skwim
Veteran Member
FYI, logican posted his remark eight years ago and hasn't posted here since Aug 17, 2011.
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An experience of Logician today would in many respects be more impressive than an experience of deity, given how long it's been since we last saw him.